I don't think he knew he was going to die either. Not by Eloise anyway. I'm sure he probably was a little more unsure about the bomb but maybe he too thought it would NOT be a typical explosion when it reacted with the island's energy that had been tapped. Or maybe he figured once things were re-set he'd find Charlotte again off-island? Kinda like Jack thought that SOMEHOW everyone would find each other even if 815 didn't crash but landed in L.A. At least I think he thought that along with nobody dieing who had kicked it on the island...all those folks he feels responsible for. Eh?

This where you theory is wrong. Eloise did not know that she had shot Daniel at this time. She did not even know how her hand writing was in his book. She only knew she had met him after she saw his face.

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But she knew when she told Daniel he had to go to the Island to work for Mr. Widmore that she would kill him. She knew at that moment. She didnt' know back in 54 and 77, but in 07 when she told him to go...she knew.

My take is this...the whatever happend, happend is still going on. Daniel always went back to the island, he always intended on blowing it up with the bomb, the incident was caused by this catastrophe we see in the finale. The pocket of energy was hit, but with the addition of the bomb causes them to have to build the hatch and causing them to hit the button every 108 minutes.

Our losties disappear from the timeline of 1977 and end up back in 2007. Somehow, some way. I don't know yet.

The DI initiate the 108 minute clock in order to preserve their time on the island and rewind time every 108 minuetes so that they are esentially living the same 108 minutes over and over again in order to prevent any additional or "future" time travelers from appearing on the island. This is why we see the polar bear in what we think is 2004 during season 1, when they are really in 1977 when polar bears were part of the DI experiments. Our losties landed on the island in the 1977-80 window for the start, just re-living the same 108 minutes while the button was being pushed.

So in the season where Desmond turned the fail safe key, he had been on the island for 3 years. He esentailly remembered these 3 years as if he had lived them and that is why he could have preminitions of the future like deja vu and was going back and forth in his head in time and needed a constant. Desmond took the brunt of the island's powers and for that is considered special and the rules don't apply to him. So when Faraday commented to him and he woke up as if it were a dream, the memory he did have, really happend during his stay while pushing the button.

There is more to the meeting between desmond and faraday that they haven't showed us...i think.

ah, just a ramble at this point. Im done.

I havent thought about that, its a very interesting idea. It would make sense with all of the time travel that has occurred. But of course that brings a few questions...like what exactly is reset when they enter the numbers? If its the same 108 minutes over and over again, then it would have to be the Island itself and NOTHING else living on the island would reset obviously. Also their camp never reset etc.

Do the others know about this and if so why havent they said anything about it?

Still a very cool idea I havent thought of.

man I love it, no idea what you said here, but i am on board.

i always thought how ben dealt with locke over this button was weird, saying that he didn't push it, when he really did. and then when th thing blew up, ben seemed upset, but not enough to do anything.

To add to these last great points, I will say that Daniel did not mislead us, and wanted things to go exactly the way they were, even his dying, because he wanted all of the events to happen the same, up to the detonation of the hydrogen bomb.
Daniel knew he had to die because he was already concieved in 1977, he was in Eloises' belly when she shot him, so he had to die. Oddly, Miles is also on the island and I believe his special powers come from the fact that he is both an adult and a child living in the same time period. Daniel realized this, but not for miles, and did the act of holding a gun to a leader of expert marksme when he himslef had never held a gun before.
Daniel knows if he destroys the swan then, nothing happens and he most likely grows up in the isand as an other and 815 never happens.

Yes... and then she lived her whole life knowing she would shoot her son in 1977, because she'd already done it whilst she was pregnant with him.

Daniel Faraday put it best when he said (I think he said this?) "This is OUR PRESENT, but we are in EVERYONE ELSES PAST". Eloise gives birth to Daniel, then sends him to the Island/backwards in time in 2008 knowing she'll shoot him as her younger self.

If theres one message you should be taking from the Variable its this; "Whatever happened definitely, totally, absoloutly happened".

The confusion here is in ``Whole life``. Eloise knew from 1977 after she shot daniel until 2004 when he goes to the island that she would shoot him in her past and his future, but she did not know between when she was born and when it happened in 1977. I think we are all on the same page.

actually i don`t agree with what you are saying at all. I think Daniel legitimately thought he could change things, and he tried. I don`t think Daniel `knew he had to die`. I don`t think that factored into it at all. He did not know eloise was going to shoot him, he had no way of gaining that info. Eloise never told him.

I also think Miles has powers because sometimes on lost people have powers. I don`t think it has anything to do with both he and baby miles existing for a period of time on the island together.

The way I see it is that Daniel did change things. He came back from Ann-Arbor for that one purpose--to change things, and he did. Jack, Richard, and Juliette worked together to detonate the H-Bomb. They were not there in 1977 when "the incident" first occurred, so they could not have detonated the bomb. It was when they travelled back to 1977 that they detonated it. Plus, that is why Mrs. Hawking said that for the first time she didn't know what will happen, because she sent Daniel back to the island to set in motion the events that would allow the 32-year old Daniel to change the future, and she is unsure of the changes that would occur due to the H-bomb exploding.
As for Daniel's statement to Pierre, "Right on time", it is possible (and probable) that Daniel has been in the 1977 time frame before, but at that time he had a different plan--perhaps the first plan failed to stop the incident. Perhaps when he went to Ann Arbor, he figured out that if the H-bomb (that he found out was on the island during his time jumping) were detonated, it would stop the incident (the explosion of pent up electromagnetic energy) and the resulting continual buildup of electromagnetic energy. We know that Pierre survived the first incident, because he referred to it in a video, but what about an underground H-bomb explosion.
I guess the first incident was a pretty big deal, but I can't help but wonder what an H-bomb explosion will do to the island. I would imagine that it is not too far underground, because Richard's group buried it, and I don't think that they had heavy equipment as Dharma does.
These are my reasons for believing that Daniel did change or course-correct the future.

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