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Old May 18th, 2008, 09:07 AM

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Don't know if this has been discussed before but thought I would bring it up anyway. I'm from the UK and have just finished watching episodes 10-11 of season 4.

In one of these episodes Ben, after seeing his daughter get shot, enters a room and we witness a flash forward involving Sayid and Ben. If I remember rightly Sayid kills someone who I think is a member of the team that is attacking Ben (the team from the freighter).

Then the black smoke monster attacks the team from the freighter and kills a team member.... Professor Hawking invokes a cosmic censor, an omnipotent entity that intervenes to prevent the occurrence of a paradox....I beileve that this black smoke could be the cosmic censor in action, preventing the occurance of a paradox. What are your thoughts???
 
 
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There are quite some threads on the forums about Smokey but I didn't see anything about its being some cosmic paradox preventer. Interesting thought.. How do you think that thought could be related to Smokey's encounters with individual Losties?
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Hi flaneuse,

Maybe smokey's encounter with individual losties somehow directed them away from creating some kind of paradox. Perhaps scared them into moving away from a certain area whereby a paradox might occur etc.

Mr echo was killed by smokey...I can't remember what he was doing at the time though can you remember?
 
 
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Maybe smokey's encounter with individual losties somehow directed them away from creating some kind of paradox. Perhaps scared them into moving away from a certain area whereby a paradox might occur etc.

Mr echo was killed by smokey...I can't remember what he was doing at the time though can you remember?
I think he was looking for Yemi...? He was in the midst of the jungle and made it clear to Smokey that he had nothing to repent for he did what was necessary to survive..

Hmm to follow your line of thought maybe Smokey prevented paradoxes like a character meeting his/her double...? (Though I'm not into many of the time-related theories going on, the word paradox immediately brings time to my mind..With what I suggest, I'm referring to something along the lines of the movie The Prestige)
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Yeh he was looking for Yemi thats right... maybe the fact that he didn't repent for what he did meant that he would do something in the future that would create a paradox?! Bit far-fetched I guess.

I agree that paradoxes points towards the various time-related theories. What about the pilot of the plane in series one? He was smokified wasn't he? This might be significant as the helicopter pilot from the freighter claimed in a flash back that he was supposed to be flying the plane. I can't see the paradox here but it might be revealed maybe as we learn more about the helicopter dude.
 
 
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Or we could look at the Eko thing this way. If Eko repents, and say, becomes a priest like his brother, then his past could be modified so that he has been a priest always... a less dangerous job then, say, drug lord! Eko doesn't repent, Smokey sees that the path is destined for death in all timelines, and kills Eko.

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Hi CableRunner! Not a bad thought at all, really interesting actually. I am gonna be keeping an eye on smokey and trying to match smokified characters with possible paradoxes that might have been created had they not been killed by smokey. Time will tell I guess! Nice talking to you, Luke x
 
 
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I like this idea a lot, and I feel there is a strong connection with this idea the pilot. I don't have it all worked out yet, but perhaps North was the pilot in one timeline and Lapidus was the pilot in another. (We know in at least one timeline he was supposed to be the pilot, but wasn't--he tells the audience this when he calls the Oceanic 815 hotline.) If the timelines have overlapped (as a result of Des not pushing the button in time, as a result of blowing the hatch, as a result of trippy DHARMA experiments, or something else entirely--I don't know) and people from different timelines are meeting when they were never meant to, perhaps North was killed by the smoke monster so that never meet Lapidus when Lapidus later arrives on the island? I don't have it worked out, but I think there's something there.



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