Is Claire Dead? - Page 2

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

That evilishly-knowing smirk she had in the cabin creeped me out. That was not the Claire we know.

Yeah - definately something up with that picture! Im thinking she's maybe dead, that whole being led away by Christian thing hinted at it for me. The things which COULD happen to her? maybe being 'resurrected' like Christian - but I mean duplicated really, as I think thats whats happening to the dead folk - a la the rabbit in the Dharma film.

Please elaborate on what you mean by "duplicated" — not sure what you are getting at.

If you look at this thread started by queenbee;

Rabbits and Planes

then I think it will explain better than I'm doing. I've not seen the Dharma film it refers to, but it seems that it is somehow possible to duplicate an object - making a clone of it in effect. This is possibly whats happened with Christian - cloned from tissue from his dead body.

Sorry, doesn't fly with me. They were working on acclimating polar bears to different
living conditions. Even the puzzle spoilers I got through Lostpedia confirmed that. And
that was the thing that got me joining this compendium of followers to begin with. Check
out the spoilers(helps if you have a background in liguistics and understand a little Latin)
at lostpedia.com/wiki/jigsaw_puzzle This stuff might just head people away from all the
tangents they tend to drift towards on a weekly basis.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone as to whether Claire "...is deceased, is
no more, is an ex" -character(to borrow from Monty Python).

Up to this point, we've only seen Christian in flashback, because he
died before the series started. The fact that we see him now has
more roots in the parental tie to Claire. She has now been written
into the prospects for a flop somewhere else(look at what happened
to Duchovny and Anderson post-X-Files); actors with accents wind up playing scientists in bad SCI-FI CHANNEL movies, because idiotic studio
execs think an accent gives credence to stupid plot devices.

Be thankful the writing here has been good for four seasons. I'm just
praying it doesn't deteriorate. In spite of its weaknesses(most good
stories happen in chronological order and viewers find out things through
the characters conversations), these writers know how to develop
characters you feel something about. That's one of the hallmarks of
good writing.

Now don't make me channel Shatner from his SNL appearance. It's a tv
show. I look forward to willingly suspending my disbelief on a weekly
basis, but there are much more important things in this world to be
concerned about. Remember Cindy Sheehan, the woman who tried to
keep the memory of her dead son alive by camping outside Mr. Bush's
Crawford ranch? Her son was a soldier like many of our friends and
family members that are overseas right now. Do you know what she
referenced when she finally called it quits : It was the apathy of an
American public who would rather be involved with reality tv than take
a stand for something as important as the people who put themselves
in harms way for you and me. I'm beginning to think Roger Waters was
right when he penned the song lyric "The species has amused itself to
death."

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Originally Posted by habaneroman

I look forward to willingly suspending my disbelief on a weekly basis, but there are much more important things in this world to be concerned about. [...] I'm beginning to think Roger Waters was
right when he penned the song lyric "The species has amused itself to
death."

Yeah, Roger Waters hates war of any kinds...even though his one particular sarcasm on atom bombs was seriously misinterpreted one time

I agree with you habaneroman, and I'm sure I'm not the only one..But since it's a thematic forum (of LOST) and even a more thematic sub-forum (of series-related theories where this very thread's under), world events don't get to be much issued here on this platform. Not that the tragic news of the earthquake in China doesn't make it to here..

My apologies if I let too much reality leak out of my fingertips onto the keyboard. I think
I was able, flaneuse, to read between your lines without reading too much into them;
and given your number of posts, humbly beg your pardon.

I guess, from my own perspective, I see the island as a microcosm. We have an "us,"
being our favorite castaways, and an assortment of "thems." First there were the
"others" and then we discover the D.I., and now we have a new group of bad guys.
I'm not usually the clinical one. I have the creative gene. But I like a mystery, and
that's one of the reasons I love this show. To borrow G'Kar's words from B-5 : "No
one here is quite what they appear." We find this out through the use of flashback
almost every week. Everyone is as equally capable of creating works of stunning
beauty and unspeakable cruelty; and without getting into any more social commentary,
this is as true of the survivors as all the rest of us.

I just have one question: How do you move an island?

Let's try and keep on topic here. If you want to talk about how to move the island, check out the thread "Move the Island?". There are lots of good ideas there!

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Originally Posted by habaneroman

My apologies if I let too much reality leak out of my fingertips onto the keyboard. I think
I was able, flaneuse, to read between your lines without reading too much into them;
and given your number of posts, humbly beg your pardon.

No pardon necessary at all.. Like you wrote, there's quite some material in LOST that make the show very relevant and interesting for comparison with the on going non-fiction of the world today, psychologically and politically...And I'd personally like to see, even join whenever I can, debates on those very real events around the globe- for which the sub-forum Fuselage would be the appropriate place I think..

As for Claire's situation, interesting that Christian is visible to both her and Locke. If C is some sort of an apparition and Claire-in-the-cabin isn't, it might as well be one of the rare instances in which 2 losties see the same haunting image (I can only remember Sayyid and Shannon seeing Walt together once). But plausible that Claire wouldn't leave Aaron on his own like that, if she was alive and around.

Anyone think it could be possible that if Chistian explained what's about to happen to Claire, that she would have let Aaron go to make sure he got off the island? The both of them seem to have a sense of what's going on and what's going to happen next.