Ben's "MAN" on boat is NOT who you think it is... - Page 3

The promos are for everyone, the average viewer. We are above average viewers

So Michael being the man on the boat may seem predictable to us but not the majority of watchers, ya know? Like we all knew Charles Whidmore was involved big time but the average viewer was probably pretty shocked by that video tape. I watch the show each week with my 16 year old stepdaughter (who loves Lost but doesn't put much thought into it at all) and she was like 'that's Caleb!' (from the O.C.). So when a promo says 'someone you never expected to see again' It is probably someone that all of us did expect to see again because we are so dang smart!

I thought of someone else it could logically be. One of my favorite characters...

*Drumroll* please!.......

Patchy!

The only thing that doesn't fit is the preview says someone we haven't seen for awhile...and we saw him about 7 episodes ago. But since there was quite a bit of time in between seasons, it's possible. And we all know he can defy death.

97% sure it's Michael...but I hope it's One-Eye.

06:53 PM

Yeah, I've been wondering about Bakunin myself. He'd be the perfect man for the job. He's got military experience, he's been Ben's communications guy etc. He'd know his way to get around a freighter to accomplish a spying mission.

first post! please excuse any mistakes, and I will try to use my spoiler function, if I can figure it out.

I haven't seen the dark ufo clips that are being mentioned, but...

Spoiler for what if:

Just a thought...

for some reason i agree and think that she is on that freighter!

Smokey has been brought up a lot by the show recently. First, Locke asking Ben about it and then the creators cast doubt on the humanity of Harper. They had the character comment on how Ben couldn't possibly have relayed the kill ordered because he was prisoner. It seems that if Ben could possibly be using smokey on the isle to relay information then he may be able to use smokey on the bought too. It all seems to tie back to Ben's childhood flashback where he saw his dead mother. Most of the people believed to have been smokey were dead. Perhaps Ben has been in control of or doing the bidding of smokey his entire life.

Smokey is Ben's man on the boat?

Wait why can't Walt be the man on the boat?
it would be so much more logical and possible.
wouldnt it?

like there are so many factors that point to this conclusion
like a ton

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Originally Posted by OhneDich14

Wait why can't Walt be the man on the boat?
it would be so much more logical and possible.
wouldnt it?

like there are so many factors that point to this conclusion
like a ton

so many factors pointing to this conclusion..such as what?

08:12 PM

Blueshirt brought up the possibility that Harper (when she contacted Juliet in the jungle) was actually the smoke monster. That's an interesting idea, but I don't think it fits w. the smoke monster pattern we've already seen.

In the past (we THINK) the smoke monster has taken the form of different dead minor characters in order to affect the lives of living main characters. For example:

1.) The smoke monster became Jack's father, when it had a message for Jack.
2.) The smoke monster became Dave, when it had a message for Hurley. (Dave never actually died because he was imaginary, but Hurley believed he "killed" Dave when he locked Dave out of Santa Rosa Mental Hospital.)
3.) The smoke monster became Charlie, when it had a message for Hurley.
4.) The smoke monster took over Sawyer's body and spoke as Wayne, when it had a message for Kate.
5.) The smoke monster took over a boar's body and behaved as Frank Duckett, when it had a message for Sawyer.

Why would the smoke monster become Harper in order to deliver a message to Juliet? It doesn't fit the pattern. Harper isn't dead and Harper meant nothing to Juliet. Professionally. Juliet thought Harper was a joke and personally Juliet had no respect for her either. (Juliet didn't stop seeing Goodwin when Harper warned her not to.) Smokey should have taken the form of a dead character really significant in Juliet's life. To me that means Goodwin, Dr. Burke--Juliet's dead (bus-flattened) ex-husband, or possibly one of the dead pregnant Other women.

Not saying that Harper WASN'T actually the smoke monster at that moment in the jungle, just that it seems an odd/poor choice for Smokey to make if it really sought to manipulate Juliet.

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by blueshirt3k

Smokey has been brought up a lot by the show recently. First, Locke asking Ben about it and then the creators cast doubt on the humanity of Harper....

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Originally Posted by chickenpotpiesarehot

1.) The smoke monster became Jack's father, when it had a message for Jack.
2.) The smoke monster became Dave, when it had a message for Hurley.
(Dave never actually died because he was imaginary, but Hurley believed he "killed" Dave when he locked Dave out of Santa Rosa Mental Hospital.)
3.) The smoke monster became Charlie, when it had a message for Hurley.
4.) The smoke monster took over Sawyer's body and spoke as Wayne, when it had a message for Kate.
5.) The smoke monster took over a boar's body and behaved as Frank Duckett, when it had a message for Sawyer. ?

It seems to me a number of these people had some reason to feel guilt towards whatever form Smokey took for them. Jack confronting his father led to his death. Hurley "killed" Dave. Perhaps he feels guilty about not being there with Charlie when he died. Obviously, Wayne and Duckett were murdered. Juliet ruined Harper's marriage and killed her husband.

The only problem I can see is that the boat is outside of the influence of the island as far as we know. Teleportation seems like it could explain things too, but there seems to be something going on plotwise with the smoke monster since it was mentioned recently. The whispers in the woods during the Harper seen suggest something odd is going on. Maybe it's a red herring?