The Valenzetti Equation? - Page 3

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Originally Posted by Flashback

... I am sure there was another way to get off the island- it might have been extreme- but "The Others" are crafty, and not a group to be left stranded- I guess I am saying if there's a will, there's a way!

Exactly. We don't have all the stations or DI dealings clarified- I'm sure there's some crazy solution only a select group of Ben's people know about safer travel without having to go through space-time shifts. Like daveoz started the discussion on another thread, sure there might as well be another vault-like thing that does the time-space shift trick when needed. But I'd like to think less-tricky ways gotta be possible, like the bearings Ben and Faraday had.

I think the wheel is the device developed waaaay back before anyone we've heard of was there, and the way in which Tom and Richard shift is a copy of that technology. I think after the Others took over from the D.I, they started to use the stations in different, more creative ways. One of those could have been a way to send someone so they could easily return.

flaneuse, are you saying that the wheel just moves the island and no matter where it ends up every bearing coming and going from the island bring you to different time and place? I liked that idea before seeing the wheel"not saying i dont like it now" was just thinking now there would be a more accurate way..

05:45 PM

OK daveoz, here's what I said earlier:

I'm saying that there's likely to be some less drastic ways Ben & a select group of his people know in order to travel from & to island...without always having to manipulate the space-time continuum (like use of the vault), that is. Like making use of correct bearings..

But with the turn of the frozen donkey wheel, bearings to reach to and leave the island must have changed as well I think (if we're assuming that the wheel moves the island in space-time) So it can't be that 300-something (315? 325?)..

At the same time, though I'm not sure about some other vault, or 'time chamber' like you put it

, it is intriguing to speculate on that as a possible answer to Richard and Tom's travels.

I 'm not quite sure what you asked about in your post but hope this clarifies a little. what do you think?

What makes me suspicious about the Valenzetti equasion is the fact that there don't seem to be any other clues about it, other than the numbers themselves.

I wonder if it is a McGuffin (sp?) much like 42 was the answer to the meaning of life in Hitch Hiker's Guide. Apologies for that spoiler for those still searching for the said meaning

I think the meaning that lies behind the numbers is similar to the theory of Psychohistory that Isaac Asimov came up with in the Foundation series.
Read it if you haven't, but if you haven't, then the basic idea is that if some person or group was to compile literally all social cultural data from the entire course of human history, a distinct pattern would emerge that, given the right amount of skill and insight on the part of the researchers, could be used to predict the most likely course of the future. In the book, the guy who starts this project doesn't even believe it will work, but he is commissioned by the Emporer to complete the research anyway because it is theorized that the kingdom will fall, and the nobility think that by knowing the future, they can change it.
I think the Lost creators are recreating this idea on a non-universal scale to make it easier to understand. So...my theory is this: that the Valenzetti equation was created using the same technique of psychohistory, and that the "powers that be" heard that they could control the future with it. I think the people who made the equation are probably being misrepresented a little, if not a lot, by the way in which their research is coming to fruition.
In other words, I think the only "good and honorable" purposes that may have been there at the beginning of the project have by this point been completely subverted by various individuals and their personal motivations.

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In it, Alvar Hanso also states that the radio transmitter on the Island, will "broadcast the core numerical values of the Valenzetti Equation.

So, is that what the man in Hurley's past heard? The radio transmission repeats it over and over? The question I have is: WHY?

I agree--what possible purpose is served by repeating the numbers over and over? What is the significance of Hurley's problem with the numbers?
Whenever he encounters the numbers, first he has good luck and then tragedy.
It's like the numbers are playing a cat and mouse game.