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ALL OF DHARMA WAS NOT GASSED AND KILLED! THEY SAY SO IN THE COMMENTARY! ZOMG watch the commentary of "The Man Behind The Curtain" PLEASE! It tells you TONS of stuff. They said that they didn't have Ben use a gas thing at first. But then they wanted him to be more invovled with his Dads death. They also said that it wasn't gasses that necessary purged Dharma. They said something on the island happened at 4 o'clock. They also tell you some cool stuff about Jacob. They also tell you Dharma isn't the first purge The Others have done. Which is some huge stuff. They take the goods ones purge the rest. Ben was who they took. If they did take anyone else I doubt it would be important. Also if they took Annie they would have let you know. They wouldn't trick you like that. Also I would kill the JJ Abrams if he said "Annie is Danielle...She got brainwashed. Sure they don't look tons alike but common its a neat twist!"

That would be a load of bull and I'd be so pissed and would probably sell my Box Sets, Burn my Action Figures, And Pretend I was never a fanboy. So unless you can get me a picture of JJ Abrams doing drugs I refuse to believe that Annie is Danielle.

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Take the good ones Purge the rest. When I say Take Ben I mean they got him to join there cause. Just like Ben did it to Locke. Why must you take advantage of my wording?
 
 
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Please watch the commentary. I feel all alone.

Here if you don't want to this is what they tell you. This is straight from LOST Spoilers:

* Horace Goodspeed and Olivia are important to the DHARMA story, and we can expect to see more of them in the future.
* Richard Alpert was conceived as the "Panchen Lama" of the Others. (That would make Ben the "Dalai Lama.") Alpert's role is to pick the next Dalai. Ben's role would be to pick the next Panchen, should the need arise. This keeps the two in a sort of balanced power relationship. They are allies, yet they have some measure of control over the other should one get out of hand.
* Ben uses the volcanic ash circle to contain Jacob. Jacob also has the means to control Ben to an extent.
* Speaking of volcanoes, there is one on the island. Damon says it will be of "seismic importance" (pun very much intended.)
* The Looking Glass Station is a communications station. Its role is to emit the ping that guides the submarine to the island.
* The DHARMA purge was not the first purge by the Others. There have been many groups on the island, and the Others have purged many times before. Remnants of all the groups make up the Others we see today. Damon likens this to the United States, which is a nation of immigrants from many cultures who have assimilated into a common culture.
* Ben set Locke up to kill Cooper as a test...he was certain Locke would fail as he has not shown himself to be capable of murder. There is probably no great mythological reason for killing one's father; Alpert helps Locke find a way to kill Cooper because it is the only way to break Ben's manipulation.
* Damon suggests that Ben's penchant for numbering his rabbits "probably has something to do with fertility experiments."
* Room 23 is located on the Hydra island, which is designated for zoological experiments. Has it only been used on humans, or was it previously used on other animals? And if so, what animals? (Calling all Joop fans!)
* Annie is an extremely important part of the island's backstory, and it is a planned chapter to come. Annie is more important than the Goodspeeds or the volcano.
* The mechanism for the purge at the Barracks was different from the mechanism Ben uses in the van (the canister of gas). The gas canister was added in post-production to give Ben a more active role in his father's death. But the original plan was for something to happen more or less island wide at 4 PM.
* We have not seen Ben's motivation for his role in the purge, but we will.
 
 
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Now reading what you have up here I remember hearing all of this.. I guess its even possible that I did watch the commentary and just didn't realize which episode but I don't think so.. Where did you get the info you posted:
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* Horace Goodspeed and Olivia are important to the DHARMA story, and we can expect to see more of them in the future.
* Richard Alpert was conceived as the "Panchen Lama" of the Others. (That would make Ben the "Dalai Lama.") Alpert's role is to pick the next Dalai. Ben's role would be to pick the next Panchen, should the need arise. This keeps the two in a sort of balanced power relationship. They are allies, yet they have some measure of control over the other should one get out of hand.
* Ben uses the volcanic ash circle to contain Jacob. Jacob also has the means to control Ben to an extent.
* Speaking of volcanoes, there is one on the island. Damon says it will be of "seismic importance" (pun very much intended.)
* The Looking Glass Station is a communications station. Its role is to emit the ping that guides the submarine to the island.
* The DHARMA purge was not the first purge by the Others. There have been many groups on the island, and the Others have purged many times before. Remnants of all the groups make up the Others we see today. Damon likens this to the United States, which is a nation of immigrants from many cultures who have assimilated into a common culture.
* Ben set Locke up to kill Cooper as a test...he was certain Locke would fail as he has not shown himself to be capable of murder. There is probably no great mythological reason for killing one's father; Alpert helps Locke find a way to kill Cooper because it is the only way to break Ben's manipulation.
* Damon suggests that Ben's penchant for numbering his rabbits "probably has something to do with fertility experiments."
* Room 23 is located on the Hydra island, which is designated for zoological experiments. Has it only been used on humans, or was it previously used on other animals? And if so, what animals? (Calling all Joop fans!)
* Annie is an extremely important part of the island's backstory, and it is a planned chapter to come. Annie is more important than the Goodspeeds or the volcano.
* The mechanism for the purge at the Barracks was different from the mechanism Ben uses in the van (the canister of gas). The gas canister was added in post-production to give Ben a more active role in his father's death. But the original plan was for something to happen more or less island wide at 4 PM.
* We have not seen Ben's motivation for his role in the purge, but we will.
Was this from Lostpedia? That may be why I reconize it..

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Its from LOST Spoilers.

Spoilers: The Man Behind the Curtain Commentary spoilers
 
 
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Thanks Pip I remember reading that way back when.. I am going to watch the commentary for it though and get back to this.. Hope I can do it over this weekend =)
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Please watch the commentary. I feel all alone.
please give me a link to this commentary of which you speak.
 
 
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please give me a link to this commentary of which you speak.
The actual Commentary is on the Season 3 DVD in bonus features on the same disk as the episode.. Or you can search google or whom ever for the links to what is on it.. ABOVE PIP did leave a link to the info from the commentary.. Check that out but he also posted the info
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Nobody but Bens dad got gassed. Watch the commentary's my friend.
I thought what they said in the commentary was that the gas used on Ben's dad was not the same as the gas used in the barracks.. Or something to that effect.. I have to watch it again since I was a bit distracted when I watched it this morning..

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Danielle isn't Annie. Watch the commentary's my friend.
I didn't hear them saying anything that gives us any clue as to who Annie is.. They did say that their is a lot more to the story of Annie and Ben but nothing saying anything about what happened to her.. I am beginning to think its less likely that Danielle is Annie but not really sure... I really don't thinik that Libby is Annie
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