"Black Rock"

We've been thinking all this time that the ship was a slave ship..
How about it was a prison ship,takeing prisoners to work in the mines and such in Australia! England was cleaning out it's prisons bout that time,useing Australia as a dumping ground.
I was reading about that practice...Besides,prisoners could be had for no money.Used in any way for the most dangerous jobs.

Please move this to whereever it needs to go ~~

Peg, i think you are on to something here. How would Rouseau know it was a slave ship, unless she were on it. Who else would have known, if she didn't talk to anyone. I bet you are right.. I've always thought that we assume too much for the show... esp when it seems like we are supposed to assume things.
A slave ship sounds bad, but people would sympathize with the 'inhabitants'...(hint) if there were any left, a prisoner ship on the other hand, well, who would like to be around that.!!!

good job.

Black Rock (ship)
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This article is related to the eponymous ship, The Black Rock. For references to the notable geological rocks seen in numerous episodes, see Black rocks.
Black Rock

First Introduced"Solitary", seen in "Exodus, Part 1"Owned byMagnus HansoCurrent statusAbandoned in the jungleThe Black Rock is a British slaving ship that was found inland on the Island. Its history and reason for being on the Island are shrouded in mystery. Parts of its story, however, have been revealed through The Lost Experience. The ship was explored in the episodes "Exodus, Part 1", "Exodus, Part 2" and "The Brig"

Arrival
From what has been discovered so far, it seems that the ship may have reached the Island on its way back from Papua New Guinea. Its mission was to reach Africa, where it was to exchange gold for more slaves. However since the ship ended up to the east of Papua New Guinea it would have been traveling the wrong direction, east instead of west. And indeed it was stated by traders at a Papua New Guinea port that the ship set sail east instead of west.

The ship's resting place is a great distance inland, a phenomenon that has yet to be explained.

On the Island
The Black Rock was discovered by the survivors of Flight 815 on Day 44. ("Exodus, Part 1") However, its existence was established much earlier in the series. The ship was first mentioned in Danielle Rousseau's distress signal, though the part that was not translated by Shannon ("Pilot, Part 1"), ("Pilot, Part 2") , and was once mentioned in Claire's diary when Charlie read it saying she was with the ship in a dream.

Indeed the ship had been discovered long before the arrival of the survivors of Flight 815. In particular by the aforementioned Rousseau, a survivor of a separate shipwreck 16 years earlier than the crash of Flight 815, and by Radzinsky or Kelvin Inman, previous occupants of the Swan station, who mapped the Black Rock on a hidden map on the inside of a blast door. Their map notes: "KNOWN FINAL RESTING PLACE OF MAGNUS HANSO/BLACK ROCK". This implies that Magnus Hanso was indeed on the ship when it disappeared and is buried in or near the crashed vessel.("Lockdown")

Rousseau mentioned the Black Rock to the captured Sayid. Also, a section of her map, stolen by Sayid after his escape, was labeled "Black Rock". Rousseau later claimed there is a Radio Tower near the Black Rock, from where she broadcast her distress signal. ("Solitary") This claim later turned out to be false. ("Through the Looking Glass")

Rousseau finally took a group of Flight 815 survivors (Locke, Hurley, Kate, Jack and Arzt) to the Black Rock in order to retrieve some of the dynamite stored inside. The dynamite was to be used in an attempt to blow up the Swan station's hatch. Rousseau named the area the ship was in the Dark Territory. ("Exodus, Part 1")

Locke and Sawyer outside The Black RockAfter Rousseau left them, Locke, Kate and Jack entered the ship through a large hole in the hull of the vessel. Outside, Hurley and the teacher had a talk about how they were treated. Inside the ship, skeletons were found shackled together, likely remains of the slaves. Old mining equipment was also found, including the dynamite. At least two cases of highly-volatile sticks were present inside the ship's hold. According to Locke the ship "must have been en route to a mining colony--(it) probably set off from the eastern coast of Africa--Mozambique". The Flight 815 survivors hauled one of the cases out of the ship. While handling some of the volatile dynamite, the unfortunate Arzt blew himself up. The remaining survivors left the ship with several sticks of dynamite. ("Exodus, Part 2")
A few months later, Locke returns to the Black Rock. He imprisons Anthony Cooper in the ship's Brig using shackles which appear to be from the ship (as he was tied up with rope at the Ruins). Locke then returns to the camp to get Sawyer, who upon learning that Anthony Cooper is the man responsible for his father killing his mother (then committing suicide), murders him using the shackles to strangle him. Moments before, Danielle Rousseau arrived at the ship to retrieve some dynamite. ("The Brig")

History (from The Lost Experience)

A page from the New World Sea Traders book with information about Magnus Hanso and the Black RockThe Black Rock was owned and run by the British trading group the New World Sea Traders and was one of the three slaving ships the company ran. The slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, indicating the New World Sea Traders operated in the black market.

The New World Sea Traders was owned and operated by Magnus Hanso, a former ship's captain who became a business entrepreneur. While no direct ownership has been stated, it is known that the Black Rock sailed out of slip 23 in Portsmouth docks, and Hanso's trading group managed slips 18 though 27. [1](although Portsmouth harbour in Britain has been a naval port since the mid 1700s. From 1808 the Royal Navy's West Africa Squadron, who were tasked to stop the slave trade, operated out of Portsmouth.

A different look of the Black Rock, from The Lost ExperienceThe Black Rock disappeared in 1881, on a return voyage from a gold mining operation in the South Indian Ocean. Perhaps more interesting than the fact the ship was lost were the circumstances preceding and following its disappearance. According to traders on Papua New Guinea, the ship sailed away from port in an Easterly direction, rather than West to Africa, where it would exchange gold from the mines in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea for more slaves. According to the ship's manifest that was discovered, the Black Rock initially sailed from (and was supposed to return to) slip 23 in Portsmouth, Britain -- but no shipping company claimed ownership. A crew of some 40 men, along with an uncounted number of slaves, was presumably lost at sea.[2] Magnus Hanso was known to still have a hands-on passion for the sea and insisted on captaining several voyages every year. It is likely that he was captaining the Black Rock himself when the ship disappeared, based on the note on the blast door map.
The sale of the company in 1882 to the East Ocean Trade Group saw the remainder of the New World Sea Traders slaving and military vessels converted to legitimate trading ships. In the 1950s, the Hanso Group purchased the East Ocean Trade Group, and renamed it to the Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants. (Rachel Blake Copenhagen 02)

Trivia
The reveal of the Black Rock as an old ship located on the middle of the Island was a mindf*ck. ("Exodus, Part 1"), (Literary techniques)
The image above was originally taken from a woodcut image of the HMS Victory, a First Rate battleship from the Battle of Trafalgar, as seen in this Wikipedia article.
The image from The Lost Experience is actually of a different ship than the one visited by the Losties. The Losties' Black Rock is much smaller, if the stern is any gauge. The B&W image from The Lost Experience is not that of a slave ship, but of a man of war, probably a fifth- or fourth-rate frigate. The gun ports are clearly visible, as is the spacious stern gallery. That gallery is nowhere to be seen on the oddly well-preserved stern of the ship the Losties find, nor are the gunports.
The Black Rock is reminiscent of the Spanish Galleon found washed up 4 days trek inland by Jose Arcadio Buendia in Gabriel Garcia Marquez's novel One Hundred Years of Solitude.
"Bad Day at Black Rock" (1955) was a film which depicted a one-armed man (much like Marvin Candle and Danielle's crew member, Montand) uncovering the secrets of an isolated town. The film's villain, Smith, enlists several men to help him kill someone he wants 'out of the way,' which is similar to Sawyer's killing of Anthony Cooper at Locke's behest.

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Isn't Lostpedia a compilation of what people think,that can be changed at will?? Or am I thinking of something else..
Besides,that ship was not set up as a slaver. And,being VERY incorect,slaves were valuable,while prisoners were pretty much free for the takeing..

I think a lot of the info is also from the lost experiance and I did not follow that when it was going on.. Just thought the info might help..

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