Flash Forward People!!!! - Page 7

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Originally Posted by polycat33

Wow, DomJ, that's quite an idea! I like it! The only thing that I wonder about is... there might be an issue with bringing back a whole bunch of people that the world was told are dead and hiding it.

I mean, Jack still works at the same place (or so I assumed, he was talking about his boss guy being "new" so I assume that Jack himself isn't new... or that it's REALLY far in the future, but I think he went back to the same place) so everyone in that hospital who knew him before would know that he was still alive contrary to the reports... I would imagine that would really interfere with any attempted cover up, BUT, I think it's still a possibility and an interesting idea.

They would definitely have to address the whole "oops, we were wrong, they're not dead!" thing... and that would definitely account for the lies comment. However... what if the world doesn't really think that? What if Naomi and whoever she is with are making that up for some reason? I know Naomi sounded like she was telling the truth of at least what she really believes when she was talking to Charlie about how his band made a come-back album after they found out Charlie was dead... although she could just be a really good liar (possible, since clearly she's not who she says she is but she had them all convinced!)

I don't know who is on the boat or what their intentions are and why they are lying about who they are and who sent them, but it's possible that for some reason it's in their best interests to make the survivers think that the rest of the world thinks their dead...

You make a good point...

Maybe when they are rescued and return to the real world they are prevented from talking about their time on the island and are forced to lie about what really happened there...maybe that's what Jack is sick of lieing about....or maybe he is sick of lying to himself, trying to tell himself he did the right thing by getting everyone rescued.
Maybe something happens on the island in the coming episodes that the losties hide from the rescuers and the rest of the world, and he's sick of lying about it....who knows!

I think it's Locke in the coffin mainly because...

a) Name on clipping starts with a J

b) The clipping states that 'he' committed suicide, I think if Locke was taken off the island against his will he would be miserable enough to resort to killing himself. I predict something will happen on the island that puts him the bad books with the other losties, all the blowing stuff up and killing people, it wouldn't surprise me.

c) I'm not sure about this but I don't think Locke had many/any friends explaining why no one came to the funeral. Jack would make an appearance because of the guilt he feels for taking everyone off the island.

An interesting thing about Charlie's death, If it was his destiny to turn off the jamming equipment and die in the looking glass, It was also his destiny to be saved by Desmond all the previous times (lightning, drowning etc) meaning Desmond never changed destiny, his attempts at saving Charlie from his destiny was simply destiny taking it's course, it was never Charlies destiny to die drowing or by lightning strike...question is did Des already know this?

Interesting theory about Locke being in the coffin. Makes sense to me.

About seeing Jack in the future: if some Losties were rescued, even if there was a cover up, they would surely be recognized (friends, family members, coworkers, ...) and the truth would come out. You can't stop all these people from talking (even if you threaten them etc., someone is bound to open his/her mouth)... So when Jack's trying to get his prescription filled, how come people only recognize him to be the guy who rescued the woman and the kid from the burning car on the bridge? If the Losties had been rescued, they would be all over the news and they would be recognized everywhere they go (either because the media would be all over it or because friends/family would talk to the media).

So obviously, nobody knows that Jack and Kate were rescued from some mysterious island. How can something of this magnitude happen without turning into big news? I know Jack said he was tired of all the lies, but I don't understand why nobody knows who they are. Or did I miss something big?

When I hear "suicide" I think of Desmond and how dispondant he was in the Swan hatch, and how he has "Our Mutual Friend" that will be the last book he ever reads (before suicide). I'm not saying that desmond is in the coffin, but I link suicide with Desmond. Also, John Locke was going to try and get that gun and commit suicide in the bone pit so he wouldn't live a life again without the movement of his legs, until Walt showed up....

I believe that Naomi said that she was sent to find/rescue Desmond when they asked why she came. I don't think she ever explicitly said that Penny sent her though, and I guess if the whole world really does think they're all dead, then if SOMEONE knew Desmond was lost in that area they would send a search crew for just him and not a whole group of people, which could explain her looking only for Desmond if Penny didn't send her.

The annoying thing about Charlie's death is that it was totally avoidable!! Someone else said it before... but I was watching thinking he can just swim out of the window once the whole room floods! If he can hold his breath long enough to swim down there he can sneak breaths from the remaining air and then hold his breath long enough to swim out the window and to the surface! Was he thinking that he'd run into what's-his-face with the missing eye if he went out the window? It's a big ocean though, and the guy would have swam away quickly to avoid getting hit by the explosion, I totally think he could have gotten out AND told Desmond that the boat wasn't Penny's.

Oh, and this hasn't been mentioned, but I got the impression that Walt wasn't really there OR a hallucination by Locke but some sort of manifestation of the island/Jacob... although it's interesting that it's a possible tie in to next season explaining what happened with Michael and Walt, but it seems to me that Jacob used Locke to go kill Naomi because Ben did not succeed in getting Jack to stop trying to contact the ship and someone else had to step in, and Jacob knew that Walt would be the best apparition to convince him.

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Originally Posted by polycat33

I believe that Naomi said that she was sent to find/rescue Desmond when they asked why she came. I don't think she ever explicitly said that Penny sent her though, and I guess if the whole world really does think they're all dead, then if SOMEONE knew Desmond was lost in that area they would send a search crew for just him and not a whole group of people, which could explain her looking only for Desmond if Penny didn't send her.

Wow, what a thought -I think Penny's father - Mr. Widmore might know what happened to Desmond - since I suspect he set the whole thing up, for Desmond to be completely away from Penny.

Phew, what lengths to go to keep your daughter from marrying a guy you don't like!! I guess that just shows the things you can do when you have a ton of money...

I think it is a flash forward and Jack's Dad is dead. Jack says bring my father down here and the other physician looks at him funny (like what are you on). You know how people refer to the dead and say things like, if my father was here he would show you how it's done.

Also I think Ben is in the coffin and Jack killed him after he was rescued. I do not think all the people on the island were rescued and Jack is trying to get back to help them.

Just my 2 cents.

Maybe it's Ben in the coffin and his spinal tumor grew back once he was off the island?

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Originally Posted by CoryMo

I think it is a flash forward and Jack's Dad is dead. Jack says bring my father down here and the other physician looks at him funny (like what are you on). You know how people refer to the dead and say things like, if my father was here he would show you how it's done.

Also I think Ben is in the coffin and Jack killed him after he was rescued. I do not think all the people on the island were rescued and Jack is trying to get back to help them.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by dalexandruz

at the end of season 2 when desmond turned the key and we saw those 2 dudes in winter weather looking at the radar, one was actually future jack looking for the island because desmond,hugo, gin, sayid,sawyer ect...

Holy cow I just watched it again and it is jack!

Can he exist in two places at one time?

Is he looking for his soul?

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Originally Posted by CoryMo

I think it is a flash forward and Jack's Dad is dead. Jack says bring my father down here and the other physician looks at him funny (like what are you on).

Agreed - he looks away then shakes his head in pity. "Im sorry you are so hammered that you would make a joke about your dead father".

I think they might just leave this mystery for us to forget. The hatch numbers, pink sky, dhrama tests - virus, the black woman in the tipi at the end of season 1 etc etc. Very little gets wrapped up!

Even when it seems wrapped up its not that patchy just keeps on re-energising and having another go!