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Old March 23rd, 2007, 06:54 PM

Default "Jacob I loved. Esau I hated." Saith the Lord!!

I know Lost is not really a Bible centered show, but it did recently flash the info about God and Jacob, and a List. This theory below is the "Christian" version Election and Predestination.

B.F. Skinner has a "Secular" theory of these ideas and Dr. Skinner has been mentioned on Lost before.

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First, it was Isaac that was taken up to the mountian to be sacrificed by his father Abraham. Isaac was the father of Jacob and Esau.

This is where it got weird. They were twins, but Esau was born first and historically would be considered the "first born" and inherit all the blessings and property of his father BUT...before they were born, God said, "Jacob I love and Esau I hate. The older will serve the younger."

This was said to show that it is God who "Elects" some for good and some for "no good." This is explained in the New Testament, Romans chapters 9 and 11.

Christians have been devided on this for centuries. But the text clearly show that God is like a "Potter" who can make from the same clay one vessel for honor and another for dishonor.

I think it is really cool. That is why I have been a Calvinist for over twenty years.

Many people say, "But that makes God unfair!" But to those he says in the same chapters, (Romans 9 & 11) "Who are you, to question God?"
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This is interesting....
Kinda fits into Ben's gang saying some of the losties are good and some are not.
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Esau could be a leader of the other others. If there is a really other others. Go to lost-media main website, i mean. there's something there you should read.
 
 
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I agree with RUmoon you make good sense. Ah yes, i should brush up on my old testament stories. Not jacob, issac, right, right.

Could John Locke be Esau and Ben or Jack be Jacob? Not the jacob the others refer to but the biblical personification of him?
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Hey benos, what is the item I would find interesting on Lostmedia.com? Because I found a lot of cool stuff their but did not find anything about Jacob.
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I guessing i'm going this buddytv's theory. Which seems so interesting though. My bad. I didn't mean to say that there was something about Esau on lost-media.com
 
 
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Those are some pretty good ideas. But I still do not think that the "others" are really good. I think they have a lot of explaining to do. Like taking Walt and bombing the raft. Like letting Michael kill Libby and Ana lucia to free Walt. etc. etc
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Well see, I think they take from all kinds of books/stories/and old lore to put into a melting pot and come out with some of the names and backgrounds of most of the characters. To say it's basically bible based isn't far of course, but it in no way is a christian show as it bases other plot points off other books just as it does the bible.

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Tell me,why did the compound house doors have locks??
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Spoiler for Ben's history???:
I have heard tell that maybe the book "Bad Twin" and the reference to Jacob (and Esau) is an implication that Ben Linus may have actually been a twin and something happened to his brother - with their parents being the DeGroots.


Lost doesn't seem to do very much just for the sake of doing it. I might be paranoid but I always try and read something in to whatever they are showing us.
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