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Sayid Hassan Jarrah is a middle-section survivor of Oceanic Flight 815. A courageous man and a competent leader, Sayid maintains a conservative manner which reflects both strength and spirituality, and tries to atone for the demons in his past. Sayid spent a lot of his adult life search for his childhood-love, Nadia, hoping she is alive. Sayid's past as a torturer constantly plagues him. Through his skills and leadership, he plays a key role in the survival of his group, and exploring the Island's secrets.
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April 9th, 2008, 05:05 PM
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Here's what I've wondered about with the kids - Carl... yes, we saw him in room 23, but it seemed he had a lot of freedom to run around with Alex, even though Ben did not like him. If he was being tested (room 23) why is he not kept with the other kids; but if he's allowed to have freedom, why aren't the other kids around (we know Zack and Emma were with Juliet for awhile) but why aren't any outside on that swingset or riding that bike?
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April 10th, 2008, 10:14 AM
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It seems that "the others" only want to take "the good people" - you know Ben keeps saying "I'm one of the good guys" - and it has been implied that somethings a little off with Aaron. Remember the psychic telling Claire that her baby needed to be raised by her because it needed her good influence. He said "Your nature... your spirit -- your goodness... must be an influence in the development of this child." Perhaps "the others" take the "innocents" which usually include children but when Ethan kidnapped Claire they sensed something "evil" or "bad" about Aaron.
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I was re-reading a lot of the transcripts from "Raised by Another" and I remember exactly what you are talking about.. I agree.. There is something about Aaron.. Maybe they did feel he was bad or evil that is the best answer I have heard so far...
Remember how Ben always says he/his side are the good guys.. Well when the psysic is sending Claire on Flight 815 he said that the people in LA were "good people"
Now I understand that he very well could have been lying to Claire to get her to crash on the island but what if there was a couple in LA.. Could it have been someone working for the others "the good people"? and by fate or coincidence they still crashed on the island..
Both Walt and Aaron have been referred to as "special" the others wanted Walt and after one attempt to get Aaron they give up? Could they be the ying and yang to eachother.. One capable of "good" and one "bad"???? Maybe that is why Aaron is allowed to leave.. Could his being raised by Kate influance the bad side of him..
I guess I just feel there is something more that has not been talked about in a long while about Aaron..
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April 10th, 2008, 01:19 PM
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Your right about what Malkin said to Claire and I used that very same text when I was thinking about this thread.. I also know no one has said that Aaron is Evil.. But being raised by someone other than Claire he could end up bad..
I really when I started this thread was trying to figure out why the Others never came back for Aaron after Alex and Danielle helped Claire escape from Ethan the day they were going to cut the baby (aaron) out of her..
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CLAIRE: What if I want to see the baby?
ETHAN: Hey, nobody's going to take him from you unless that's what you want. You have a choice. We're good people, Claire. We're a good family. But if you're going to trust us with your child I want you to be sure. Okay?
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[The girl gets Claire out of bed and brings her to the door. They see an operating room full of people.]
YOUNG GIRL: Don't scream. They're going to do it tonight.
CLAIRE: Do what?
YOUNG GIRL [closing the door]: Shhhh.
CLAIRE: What are you talking about?
YOUNG GIRL: You're going to die. They're going to cut him out of you. I can get you back to your camp, but we have to leave. Now!
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My point is the Others did want Aaron.. Claire escapes.. Has the Baby.. And they never try to get him again.. Why?
I know that Ethan takes her without any of the others knowledge. Did Ethan want her and Aaron or were the Others going to take him but Ethan had to act in haste to get her when the Losties realized he wasn't on the plane.. After that was it too risky?
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VOICE [from outside the room]: Ethan.
ETHAN: Wait here, I'll be right back.
CLAIRE: Okay.
VOICE: What the hell happened? You were supposed to make the list and then bring her in. Was I unclear?
ETHAN: It's not my fault. They knew I wasn't on the plane. They had a manifest.
[The voice is revealed as Mr. Friendly, without his beard and grubby clothes.]
MR. FRIENDLY: What am I supposed to tell him? You know what he's going to do when he finds out. Damn it, Ethan.
[Mr. Friendly notices Claire listening and closes the door.]
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DESMOND: I love you, Penny. I've always loved you. I'm so sorry. I love you!
PENNY: I love you too.
DESMOND: I don't know where I am, but--
PENNY: I'll find you, Des--
DESMOND: --I promise--
PENNY: --no matter what--
DESMOND: --I'll come back to you--
PENNY: --I won't give up--
BOTH: I promise. I love you.
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April 10th, 2008, 02:41 PM
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Oh how I fogot completely about all of this!
So both Goodwin and Ethan acted as independent agents once they inflitrated. Goodwin saw Anna Lucia as one of the 'good guys' while Ethan sought to get Aaron.
The other's pretty much stopped all the kidnapping after they saw that the Losties could fight back (ie: Ethan and Goodwin). Could be that they had who they wanted at that time or that they werent worth it? I have no idea.
I wonder who all those other surgeons were in the operating room if Ethan was working alone...couldnt have been Juliette....
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