Why did no one help Michael find Walt?

I've never understood this. Yes, Jin went after Michael in the jungle but I think that was to make sure Michael was safe and to bring him back to the Losties' camp., not to help him find Walt. Later, when Michael is on the computer in the hatch (Season 2, of course) talking with someone (who might have actually been Walt) on the computer Jack tells him "No one has forgotten about Walt. Just as soon as we can we'll put together a search party to bring him home." (Or something to that effect.) "As soon as we can"??? At that point Walt had been missing for close to a week, I think. Don't most cops agree that's it's important to find abducted children in the first 48 hours or they're probably dead? Why was everyone so calm about Walt being missing??? Shannon was the only one who seemed really worried. And why did everyone seem so chafed by Michael's wanting to find his kid? I thought that was so weird. They take off to search for Claire and Charliie and Aaaron right away, why not for Walt? But then Jack and his group goes off to bring Michael home the second time he takes off to find Walt. What's going on and how does that make any sense?

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Originally Posted by chickenpotpiesarehot

I've never understood this. Yes, Jin went after Michael in the jungle but I think that was to make sure Michael was safe and to bring him back to the Losties' camp., not to help him find Walt. Later, when Michael is on the computer in the hatch (Season 2, of course) talking with someone (who might have actually been Walt) on the computer Jack tells him "No one has forgotten about Walt. Just as soon as we can we'll put together a search party to bring him home." (Or something to that effect.) "As soon as we can"??? At that point Walt had been missing for close to a week, I think. Don't most cops agree that's it's important to find abducted children in the first 48 hours or they're probably dead? Why was everyone so calm about Walt being missing??? Shannon was the only one who seemed really worried. And why did everyone seem so chafed by Michael's wanting to find his kid? I thought that was so weird. They take off to search for Claire and Charliie and Aaaron right away, why not for Walt? But then Jack and his group goes off to bring Michael home the second time he takes off to find Walt. What's going on and how does that make any sense?

That's a good question. And they never went looking for the other kidnapped children, either. Even Ana Lucia seemed to forget about them.

I thought that Jack and the the other losties wanted to help Michael but he didn't give them a chance to form a plan. Michael just took off. It seems like there were other things going on too that caused Jack and his gang to take a slower approach. Ultimately Michael ends up getting caught and leads to Libby's death

and Ana's death

as well as Jack, Sawyer, and Kate getting captured. But no one could have known this would happen.
I think they should have geared up and helped Michael find Walt. Or at least gone out with him and try to find out what they could do.
After the meeting in the jungle where Tom gives them the "Don't cross this line" speech I think the losties can be excused for not just running out to find Walt, but before this I don't know.
I feel sure the writers gave us some reason for not just imediatiely going after Walt, but I can't think of it. Have to go back and rewatch I guess....

Yea Jack went after Michael and thats when they met up with Tom and the gang and they told them they couldn't cross the line. He even said in that episode to Michael: "No one has forgotten about Walt." They were planning to try and find him and then Michael just took off.

I believe that it was decided that going into the jungle right away without a plan an guns for Walt would be foolish since the others knew the island much better.. Then when Michael locked LOCKE in the armory of the hatch and took guns after them his when he was captured.. Made the deal with the others to let Ben go... Went back and killed our people and took Hurley, Jack, Sawyer and Kate to the other to be captured..

There was a long period of time between when Michael, Sawyer, and Jin finally get back to the Losties camp and tell everyone that Walt was taken and when they got the "Don't cross this line" speech by Tom Friendly. At least a couple days.

Jack was annoyed with having to go bring Michael back again. And it was to bring Michael back, not to save Walt. At one point during that search, Locke even says to Jack "What if he doesn't want to come back? Walt is his kid. Who are we to tell him he needs to come home rather than find his kid."

I just didn't get it. It seemed like it was about Jack being pissed off that Michael made a major decision without consulting him. Jack's pride is definitely a major obstacle for him. "Live together or die alone"? Not hardly, Jacko.

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Originally Posted by Wednighter

I believe that it was decided that going into the jungle right away without a plan an guns for Walt would be foolish since the others knew the island much better.. Then when Michael locked LOCKE in the armory of the hatch and took guns after them his when he was captured.. Made the deal with the others to let Ben go... Went back and killed our people and took Hurley, Jack, Sawyer and Kate to the other to be captured..

I'm only posting this for the info.. Thought it might help and if it doesn't, well at least I tried

Michael Dawson - Lostpedia

While all this was going on, Ben and Juliet met in the Pearl station to discuss their plan to use Michael to eventually lure Jack, Kate and Sawyer to a remote location where they would be taken captive. That same day, Michael was contacted by someone claiming to be Walt on the swan computer. ("Exposé")
That same day, while in the hatch, Michael discovers the blast doors. He asks Locke about it, who doesn't know anything either. Locke tells Michael about the Swan Orientation Film and offers to let Michael watch it. Eko asks if he can watch it too. Locke does not object. He shows Michael and Eko the film and then explains the shifts to Michael. Michael investigates the computer. He soon notices that the monitor says "Hello?". Michael types back "Hello?". When "Who is this?" appears on the monitor, Michael replies, typing "This is Michael, Who is this?". To Michael's surprise, "Dad?" appears on the monitor. ("What Kate Did")

Ms. Klugh talks to Michael at the decoy village ("Three Minutes") (promotional still)
The next day, Michael continues to communicate with "his son" on the computer. "Walt" tells him that he's OK and that he's alone. Jack enters when Michael was about to type something. Jack tells Michael that he will do everything in his power to get Walt back and that he can't imagine how tough it is to Michael. Michael thanks him and Jack leaves after glancing at the computer screen. ("The 23rd Psalm")
The next morning, Michael asks John if he can borrow some guns for target practice. Michael drops a box of bullets on the ground. When Locke bends down to get them, Michael knocks him out with the butt of his gun. He then walks over to the computer and gets instructions from Walt on where to find him. ("Three Minutes") By this time, Jack found Locke lying on the ground in the closet. Michael tells Jack that he's going after his son. Jack tries to convince Michael otherwise, but is unsuccessful and Michael locks them in the closet. ("The Hunting Party")
Michael ran through the jungle until he came across Pickett urinating. Michael corners him, but is soon attacked by Tom, who takes his rifle. Michael gets away with Pickett firing shots at him. Tom orders Pickett to stop and throws a slingshot-type strap that trips Michael. They put a bag over his head and gag him. ("Three Minutes")
At night, when Tom removes the hood off Michael's head, Michael's first reaction is to spit on him. Tom warns him not to do that again. Danny and Tom leave to talk to Jack, Locke, and Sawyer, Alex uses this as an opportunity to ask about Claire's baby. When Tom and Pickett return, Alex is forced to knock Michael out with a gun. ("Three Minutes")

Michael shooting Ana-Lucia, and right before shooting Libby ("Two for the Road") (promotional still)
They then take a long hike to the Decoy village. When Michael first arrives, Pickett takes a blood sample from him. Michael then encountered Ms. Klugh, who asked him a number of questions about Walt's upbringing. Michael was unable to answer any of the questions asked. After being kept as a prisoner for almost a week, Michael was briefly allowed to see his son. In the emotional reunion, Walt was once again pulled away from his father after hinting that the Others aren't who they claim to be. Michael is left in tears, when Ms. Klugh approached him. She offered Michael a deal: if he released the Other who had been captured by his friends, as well as bring Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley to them, they would release Walt. A devastated Michael agreed, but added that if he did what they asked, he wanted a boat. She agreed. ("Three Minutes")
Shortly after, Juliet came in to see Michael, and told him that he can have the boat he requested. She commented that Walt is very special, and that she's glad he will be able to leave after Michael complies with their deal. Juliet assured Michael that they will honor their end of the bargain, as she let him know of her own deal that she made to save her sister. Michael asked why she would do that if she couldn't be with her, and Juliet asked, "Wouldn't you do anything to save Walt?" ("The Deal")
Michael was next seen running through the jungle and finally collapsed in front of Kate and Jack. ("S.O.S.") They brought him back to the Swan. After Michael regained consciousness, he told them that he wasn't captured and knew where the Others lived. ("Two for the Road")
When he was alone in the hatch with Ana-Lucia, he offered to kill Henry Gale for her. He then turned and shot Ana-Lucia. He turned around to see Libby staring at him and panicked, shooting her as well. With Ana-Lucia dead and Libby slowly dying, Michael freed the Other known as Henry Gale. He then shot himself in the arm to convince the rest of the survivors that he was another innocent victim who simply got unlucky. ("Two for the Road"), ("?")
Michael then rallied the survivors requested in order to "rescue Walt", insisting that he do it "his way", and refused help from Sayid who was by far the most qualified for a rescue attempt. While many of the survivors fell for the story, Sayid did not, and confided in Jack that he believed Michael had been "compromised". Although Jack had his doubts, he agreed that only Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley should go on the mission. Before leaving however, Jack secretly issued Michael a gun without any bullets. ("Three Minutes")

Jack reveals Michael in front of the rescue party ("Live Together, Die Alone") (promotional still)
Out in the jungle, Michael and his team encountered a large bird that swooped down on them. Michael attempted to shoot it by reflex and realized that his magazine was empty, and when Jack offered to reload the weapon, Michael realized that Jack was suspicious of his motives. The team was scouted by two of the Others, one of whom Sawyer killed. The surviving Other ran from the group, which made all but Jack and Michael fearful that the Others would find out their plan. Jack then revealed that the Others have already been warned, explaining to the team that Michael had betrayed them. He apologized and pleaded for their understanding, but none of them could forgive him for his actions, particularly Hurley who forced Michael to admit his part in Ana-Lucia and Libby's deaths. As the team moved through the jungle, they were ambushed by the Others at the capsule dump, all of them taken hostage. The group was moved to the Pala Ferry, where Henry Gale showed his authority as the apparent leader of the Others. ("Live Together, Die Alone")
He acknowledged that Michael kept his word, and returned Walt to him, along with the promised boat. Henry told Michael that by traveling at a compass bearing of 325, they would find rescue. Michael asked Henry how he knew they wouldn't tell people where they'd been, to which he replied that Michael wouldn't dare risk letting people know the lengths he went to in order to get his son back. ("Live Together, Die Alone")
Michael then desperately asked the question on all the survivors' lips: who the Others really were. With the ominous reply and grin from Henry that they are "the good guys", Michael and Walt started up the boat and departed from the pier. While Walt looked back at his friends still held captive, Michael kept his eye on the heading - leaving the Island with his son. Even after all he had had to do, in Michael's mind the two had finally come together once more. ("Live Together, Die Alone")

Thanks, W. That puts some of events in the right order in my head. And thanks for adding the info from the mobisodes (I still don't know where that word comes from...) so durn quickly. Gracias.

In terms of propelling the story forward, Michael would never have been making deals with the Others if the Losties had teamed up right away in search of Walt, that much is clear. Libby and AnaLucia would still be alive (now, the _morality_ of Michael's killing them is another story entirely...I'm just talking about the necessity). And then we would never have had our love/hate relationship with that Michael, which is part of the fun of the show, is it not?

Just thought it was weird that after:

1.) Jin and Michael bonded and
2.) Sawyer and Michael bonded, and
3.) Locke and Walt really bonded, and
4.) considering Kate's extreme actions to save her mother, and
5.) considering Claire's new understanding of what it is to be a parent and of the love you instinctively feel for your child and the crazy things you would risk to ensure their safety, and
6.) Locke's lifelong yearning for a family who loved and wanted him and
7.) the lengths all of the Losties went to to save Claire, Charley, Aaron and 8.) considering all the anger surrounding Sun's attack (a lot of people wanted to get a bunch of guns and go shoot the others then and there even after Sun safely survived the attach and was home safe and sound) and
9.) ESPECIALLY after all Jack's talk of "Live together or die alone"...

NOT banding together immediately upon Jin, Sawyer, and Michael's return to the Lostie's camp to bring Walt home was a real headscratcher to me, is all.

Wednighter: I'm only posting this for the info.. Thought it might help and if it doesn't, well at least I tried [/color]

Michael Dawson - Lostpedia

While all this was going on, Ben and Juliet met in the Pearl station to discuss their plan to use Michael to eventually lure Jack, Kate and Sawyer to a remote location where they would be taken captive. That same day, Michael was contacted by someone claiming to be Walt on the swan computer. ("Exposé")
That same day...[snip] Yaddayaddayadda...

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Originally Posted by chickenpotpiesarehot

In terms of propelling the story forward, Michael would never have been making deals with the Others if the Losties had teamed up right away in search of Walt, that much is clear.

I'm not so sure that is completely clear.
FATE plays a very big role in the LOsT universe.
I think Michael's actions pretty much speak for themselves. He was willing to do anything to get Walt back. and in his mind keep his son safe. All of Michaels flashbacks show that he feels like he made mistakes with Walt. and he feels he was cheated out of being with his son. The accident that put him in the hospital. even the powers that be keeping him away from his son. All this shapes Michael's character into making irrational decisions. The early days on the island show him trying to keep Walt safe and by his side even at the risk of alienating himself from Walt. Michael is really a complex character.

Lets play what if?
What if all the losties banded together with Michael and went out in force to get Walt. Then through nobody's fault Michael still ends up being captured and offered the deal of betrayal. Would he have taken it.

I think yes.

Michael has major trust issues. The only team he is backing is himself and Walt. He has shown the potential to bond with some of the losties, but when anyone comes between him and Walt watch out. No one is safe.

Mike has a kid
the rest do NOT

Jacko Locke Kate
MAYBE Sawyer does?

Mike becomes the LEAST fave

WHY???

I do admit my response is weak .

I also agree it was too dangerous to go out looking.

However Mike having a kid is no excuse for betraying the Losties.

I thought this was kinda of racist on the part of the writers to have Mike being the early villain..and according to what I have read on the forums Mike the real life actor will NOT be returning

Bet this Walt shall return..I know ya already figured it out..

BUT Mike is gonna be my bet for a long shot Hero

gets to the mainland dies off after giving some valuable info???

Walt is the future seer and his role has to pivot those numbers with his visions and some of the other Losties.