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Benjamin "Ben" Linus
Benjamin "Ben" Linus is the leader of the Others on the Island. Ben arrived on the Island as a child, brought by his father Roger to work for the DHARMA Initiative. Ben takes orders from Jacob, and is the only person who visits and speaks with him. Ben's apparent goal is to keep the Island and its special properties secret from the outside world, and he goes to great lengths to achieve this.
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DharmaDude
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December 2nd, 2006, 02:31 AM
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Seems to depend on which camp you're in. Since the beginning the show seems to have a lot to say about coincidence versus destiny.
Locke seems to feel that everything happens for a reason (destiny) while Jack would call it a random occurrence (coincidence). These things happen to make us question the difference - is there a difference?
Interestingly enough, Jack has reason to question this in Season 3, when Henry Gale reveals an interesting tidbit...
As for me, I think I would be let down to discover it was all just coincidence. For me when there get to be too many coincidences, it becomes a pattern and not a random occurrence.
Given what we also learned in the Summer via the Lost Experience, with regard to I think there is an obvious clue to the answer to this question.
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December 3rd, 2006, 03:54 AM
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I think the Equation does more than just set a date for the end of mankind. We also know that the Numbers are the key factors in the equation, could they not represent physical parts of the equation? 42 for example could be the number of people needed for the equation to work, so maybe more people will keep dying until they reach the optimum number.
The Numbers on consideration have brought good and bad luck to Hurley, by using them in the lottery. They may have driven Leonard insane so that all he can do is repeat those numbers again and again as he whiles away life in the mental hospital.
According to the Lost Experience the numbers being broadcast on the Island represent the key factors in the equation, and the broadcast was supposed to be changed by DHARMA when they succeeded in balancing the equation. It's possible that by the Losties being there, they have upset the equation.
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The amount of coincidences and degrees of separation amongst such a small group of people from all over the world, all winding up on the same plane that crashes into an island and they all survive....hmmmm. Something is going on here.
I'm guessing the Dharma Initiative has something to do with it... but what?
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My guess is that the equation is actively balancing itself...in the form of what appears to be coincidence but in fact could be an artificial kind of fate. DHARMA thought they had it figured out but it needed more factors, so it brought in a number of people through a number of different means, with almost mathematical rhythm to it.
Hey, it could easily mean nothing, but when I have some free time on my hands I like to enjoy what-ifs...
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December 4th, 2006, 03:27 PM
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Heres another. it was a coincidence that jack met Desmond while running. It was fate that they would be lost on the same island.
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I agree, it's entirely possible that both scenarios are occurring on the Island, it's a matter of sorting out which ones are coincidence or fate.
Quite unlikely to be just one or the other.
And what does it all have to with the show? Agghh!!! (head explodes)
LOST does it to me again! lol
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December 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM
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I believe that coincidence and fate cant be intertwined.
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I agree also.
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