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Bernard Nadler

Bernard Nadler is a tail section survivor of the crash of Oceanic Flight 815 and the husband of Rose. He is the only tail section survivor that has not been killed, captured, or assimilated in to the Others. He wasn't seated in the tail section, and was only there when the plane crashed because he was using the bathroom then. Bernard cares very much for Rose and feels a need to fix things, like her cancer, not dissimilar to Jack.
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You're right Wed, the Aussie police handed him a ticket, I remember that distinctly.
Now we have to take it one step further and see who has affected who else, or what else on the island and it what way, and match them up with bought ticket or given ticket. If Malkin and Paik and Widmore can get people onto a certain plane, then it's science in what they were doing. The ones who bought tckets and happened on that plane is Fate.
Libby is seemingly a pawn in all of this, but how, besides giving Desmond a boat, would she have affected Hurly getting on the plane, who may have killed her husband, and was also worth a crapload of money by a 1 in a billion chance, using numbers he heard in Santa Rosa. did Libby in some way have hurley and Lenny meet in the asylum. Did Libby sacrifice her husband to change hurleys fate. My head hurts.

Well, lets look at Charlie, since he's gone now and we take a look at the whole of his Lost career, and see what he has affected.
1. Claire, first and foremost. Became her pseudo husband. Basically saved her life, for not for Desmond trying to save Charlie, Claire would have drown. numerous other Claire helpings. Claire was given a ticket.
2. Sawyer, helped Sawyer get guns. Sawyer was given a ticket.

Does anyone see where I'm going with this, and sorry Chicken for jacking your thread, I had a point to the original theme somewhere in here.

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I have my own theories concerning Libby.
check out the theory thread "Libby's Little Secrets".
 
 
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You're right Wed, the Aussie police handed him a ticket, I remember that distinctly.
Now we have to take it one step further and see who has affected who else, or what else on the island and it what way, and match them up with bought ticket or given ticket. If Malkin and Paik and Widmore can get people onto a certain plane, then it's science in what they were doing. The ones who bought tckets and happened on that plane is Fate.
Libby is seemingly a pawn in all of this, but how, besides giving Desmond a boat, would she have affected Hurly getting on the plane, who may have killed her husband, and was also worth a crapload of money by a 1 in a billion chance, using numbers he heard in Santa Rosa. did Libby in some way have hurley and Lenny meet in the asylum. Did Libby sacrifice her husband to change hurleys fate. My head hurts.

Well, lets look at Charlie, since he's gone now and we take a look at the whole of his Lost career, and see what he has affected.
1. Claire, first and foremost. Became her pseudo husband. Basically saved her life, for not for Desmond trying to save Charlie, Claire would have drown. numerous other Claire helpings. Claire was given a ticket.
2. Sawyer, helped Sawyer get guns. Sawyer was given a ticket.

Does anyone see where I'm going with this, and sorry Chicken for jacking your thread, I had a point to the original theme somewhere in here.
I will start working on this again towards the end of the week.. Gonna be really busy with work until then but will see what all I can come up with for each person.. I know I started on this a while back.. Let me do some checking

Character Reason for being in Sidney How they got their Ticket

Jack Shepard Getting Fathers body We can assume that he bought his plane ticket

Kate Austen Being extradited from Austrilia to US after being captured by the marshal Assume Marshal or US Government bought it

James "Sawyer" Ford To Kill the man he thought was the original Sawyer.. Deported by Sidney Police, assumeingly they got the ticket

Sayid CIA had him undercover with old friend who was involved in terriorist activities CIA bought his ticket but he made them switch it to flight 815 so he could claim his dead friends body so he could have a proper burial

Charlie In Sidney to visite brother Liam We assume Charlie bought his own ticket but don' t think it has ever been said

Claire To give Aaron up for adoption to a couple in LA that the pysic found Psysic bought the plane ticket for her

Jin Delivering watchs for Sun's father Mr. Piak in LA Assume that Mr. Paik's company bought their tickets
Sun Was with Jin to deliver the watches She was going to leave Jin before they got on the flight but last minute changed her mind

Hurley He was going to visite Sam Toomy about the numbers He bought his own plane ticket home

Rose Was on honeymoon with Bernard who was bring her to a Faith Healer Can assume they bought their own tickets
Bernard Taking wife Rose to the Faith Healer hoping to heal her cancer Can assume they bought their own tickets

John Locke
Was going on a Walk about tour but was not allowed to go since he was in a wheelchair Don't know if the walkabout agency or that was included with flight or if he bought plane ticket separate

Cindy Was fight attendant for 815

Ana Lucia Was in Sidney with Jacks father Christen Unknown if she bought her plane ticket home or if Christen did

Libby Unknown Unknown

Mr. Eko Was sent to investigate a "merical" that was Claire psysic's daughter Can assume that the church bought his plane ticket

Michael To get his son Walt who's mother had recently died Brian
Porter I would say is most likely to have bought this ticket

Walt
Lived in Sidney with his step father Brian Porter Brian Porter I would say is most likely to have bought this ticket

Boone Went to "rescue" his step sister Shannon after a call from her We can assume that he bought his plane ticket
Shannon Lived in Sidney with live in boyfriend who conned her of money she was conning Boone out of We can assume that Boone bought her plane ticket


Sorry here is something to start with.. It a mess since I copy and pasted out of an excel sheet.. Sorry no time to fix...

More to follow in a couple days..
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Character Reason for being in Sidney How they got their Ticket

Jack Shepard Getting Fathers body We can assume that he bought his plane ticket


I don't think we should jump to the conclusion that Jack bought his own ticket to Australia. It was Jack's mother's idea that he go there in the first place. Jack didn't even know his father was missing until his mother told him. Then his mother guilt-tripped him into promising he would find Christian and bring him home.

I'm not saying that Jack's mother was part of a conspiracy or anything, just that she probably bought the ticket.
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I would say at this point its 50/50 if he or his mother bought the ticket.. She could have but she does seem hurt and upset with Jack at this point and maybe she didn't want to... He is a sucessful surgeon.. I'm sure he has the money..

Also just an FYI this info is from 5/8/07 when I was putting the list and reasons together, if some of the info is old I'm sorry it was a quick copy and paste job... LOL
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Libby is Dharma. She is not a normal Person. LIBBY IS DHARMA!
 
 
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Libby is Dharma. She is not a normal Person. LIBBY IS DHARMA!
i'm with you on this fer sure.
she's not only dharma, she was important.
 
 
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She wanted Hurley Drunk! If Michael Didn't kill her then Dharma would take over the island again and try and kill the others. And if they kill the others then the island goes wacko and the Cerberus will blow up those pylons and kick some Dharma butt.
 
 
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She wanted Hurley Drunk! If Michael Didn't kill her then Dharma would take over the island again and try and kill the others. And if they kill the others then the island goes wacko and the Cerberus will blow up those pylons and kick some Dharma butt.
Yeah I totally agree. Hurley is a lightweight at drinking! That scarlet woman!!
 
 
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Perhaps Libby is Annie from Ben's youth, who like Richard Alpert periodically ventures off the island to influence the fates of people to bring them TO the island.

...really far out on a limb now...

--UPDATE--
Just read your theory in length under theories.... maybe not so far-out as I'd thought...

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