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Shannon Rutherford

Shannon Rutherford was a middle section survivor of Oceanic Flight 815 and was Boone's stepsister, who she frequently argued with. She was very selfish at times, though she eventually formed a romantic relationship with Sayid. Shannon survived on the Island for 48 days before she was unintentionally shot and killed by Ana-Lucia Cortez.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:40 PM

Default One thing I dont get:

Why was Locke so NUTS on the finale? Sure the hatch-is-just-a-sick-gag thing was troubling him, but that doesnt mean he needed to go balistic.

THE MAN CAN WALK in this place...he was a pathetic para back in Cali and now he's a boar-huntin', Ethan-trackin', knife throwin' he-man! He HAS to know there's something very special on this isle, and that the hatches only got built THERE because it WAS so special a place...the experiments may have been disallusioning...but his actions were full-on irrational.

The 'button' may have been a goof...but given the scary blast doors-dropping, magnet-charging noises he heard in Lockdown...he HAD to know it might NOT be just a goof...at a minimum the hatch served a very useful purpose, what with the shelter, the kitchen and showers, laundry etc. Why put it all and everyone else at risk? That's friggin selfish, dangerous and just plain NUTS! And very un-Lockian. He should have just said "Eko...knock yourself out pushing the button...but you're a damn fool for doing it"

That guy just went from island sage doyen to island public enemy #1.

The ONLY thing I can throw up in 'defense' of that set of actions was his reference to being "a slave to that thing"...I think what with the Black Rock boat that possibly slavery will re-emerge as a theme on Lost...and so maybe Locke 'freed' them somehow...but took a HUGE risk in the process.
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Locke was acting like he did in the flashback to the therapy group. I think he had so totally believed in the living island, destiny scenario he had thought up to explain his miracle (and the miracle of their surviving the plane crash with only superficial injuries) that finding out the button-pushing might be a con reminded him of what his father did.

And this time, he was gonna get even. The island, or Dharma, wasn't going to get away with tricking him like his dad did. He was going to wreck their little experiment and laugh as he imagained all their faces when all the button-pushing-foolery stopped.

He wanted so much to believe. He believed his dad, twice, and lost his one true love (Helen).
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Locke was acting like he did in the flashback to the therapy group. I think he had so totally believed in the living island, destiny scenario he had thought up to explain his miracle (and the miracle of their surviving the plane crash with only superficial injuries) that finding out the button-pushing might be a con reminded him of what his father did.

And this time, he was gonna get even. The island, or Dharma, wasn't going to get away with tricking him like his dad did. He was going to wreck their little experiment and laugh as he imagained all their faces when all the button-pushing-foolery stopped.

He wanted so much to believe. He believed his dad, twice, and lost his one true love (Helen).
Im sure you're right..well said.

He just took a HUGE risk, and not just to himself to get his revenge, is my point. And now Hanso might sue him to boot!
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Im sure you're right..well said.

He just took a HUGE risk, and not just to himself to get his revenge, is my point. And now Hanso might sue him to boot!
But the funny thing is, he didn't think he was taking a risk.
He was sooo sure he was right about being tricked.
After all, it had happened twice before.
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What happened to his "faith " ? It is so weird that he would change his attitude so much . Faith is the belief in things unseen . He seemed to have real faith , but maybe not if he could be swayed so easily . Maybe he has faith in only the things he does see , Echo is the real man of faith . Locke is just a pretender . In my humble opinion that is .
 
 
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The miracle of his healing was the basis of his Faith. His entire history--as an orphan, then tricked by his mother, conned twice by his father, first that the guyu loved him and then losing his kidney--all those things worked to undermine his Faith.

Remember what he said to Jack? "Believing has never come easy for me." Every time he's put his faith in something, he been disappointed. That's why it was so easy for Henry to get him to believe that everything was a hoax. Deep down, he was worried about that himself.

He is a good, but flawed, individual.
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And if Hanso wants to sue him, he'll have to rescue him, won't he?

Sort of like, "If you want me, come and get me!"
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I think real faith is dificult for everyone for whatever reason or past experiences, look at all the stuff Echo went thru , Jack ,Kate ,Charley , all of them . As you know I have my doubts about Locke's sincerity, and we have all seen how ruthless he can be when he has a mind set on something . I'm really just saying no one on the Island is always who they appear to be .
 
 
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I didn't understand why Desmond seemed to agree with Locke's idea that it was just a social experiment for as long as he did. He was there the first time and saw what happened. Doors coming down and lights flashing could easily just be a facade. But what his bunkmate explained about the electromagnetic discharge and then seeing it with his own eyes... too much truth in that. And don't forget about the failsafe key! Desmond knew too much was true to be swayed by John until the final countdown of 30 seconds.

I wish Desmond would have told John what he knew about the button. Maybe if John knew the mechanics behind it instead of just thinking "saving the world." And THEN, even when stuff was flying around John still acted like a big baby!

If he didn't want to push the button, then quit going into the hatch. At least it gave people something to do besides pick fruit all day. Ugh! That whole thing with John sabotaging the button-pushing totally frustrated me.
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