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4x12 - There's No Place Like Home, Part 1 Airdate: May 15, 2008

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My vote is Mr. Widmore.
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everyone's assuming they get off the island after getting on the ship, but remember, there's a whole new season coming up, and nobody's getting off no island anytime soon, son!
They get on the ship, they get back to the island, they deal with a sh*tload of new adventures AND then they get back home, anybody? what do you think?
 
 
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So, yeah, I vote Mr. Widmore as well. Although, is Jin dead at all? when Sun was giving birth, yes, she was alone, and Jin was maybe in another timeline, past, future, going to give the stuffed panda to a major Paik client. But what's really important to me is what he responds to the nurse at the end of that sequence "Give me time, I've been married only two months". MAYBE, it's not really the past, and he stayed on the island, got brainwashed or went into that space/time frenzy where he ends up THINKING he's in the past and some how ended up back in Korea.
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So from last night's episode, I heard right that Jack said "Sun blames me for killing Jin." Right?
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So from last night's episode, I heard right that Jack said "Sun blames me for killing Jin." Right?
Jack didn't say Jin's name, but yes.... or killing actually...

I think he said "And Sun blames me for..." and that was the end of the sentence.
 
 
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^^ everyone assumes that Jin is dead, but I guess we don't have any real confirmation of that yet.
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Im still not sure that we know who Sun blames for Jin's death. There was Jack who put them in that situation, Kate who said she would go get Jin, and Ben who was the reason why everything happened.
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And now we know that Sun has joined up with Widmore
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I don't know who the second person is that Sun is blaming for the death. From the look of the season finale I'd say that it's Jack (from the comment Jack makes) but if she could somehow find out that it was Ben that caused the explosion that would explain her alignment with Widmore. I wonder if she blames Jack for something else. He never finishes his sentence and it would have been very easy to just say that she blames him for Jin's death. Maybe they are misleading us...again.
 
 
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Well so, who is the other person that Sun is thinks is responsible for Jin's (apparent) death?

It seems clear that Jack thinks it is him, by what he started to say to Ben.

Other guesses would have to be made based on what information Sun has.
OR What information we think Sun has.

So what information do we as viewers of the show know that Sun has?

It seems by her visit to Widmore that she knows that it was his frieghter, his mercenaries, and his plan that ultimately ended up in the frieghter explosion.

So Widmore could be the other person she blames.

Since Locke(as Jeremy Bentham) visited Jack, Hurley, Kate, and Walt. Then it is plausible that he could have visited Sun and told her the events that led to the freighter explosion.

So Ben could be the other person she blames.

As far as Sun blaming herself? I don't think so. She doesn't take responsibility like that.
I think back to the scene of her as a child in The Glass Ballerina where she wouldn't admit to her father that she broke the glass ballerina even when her father said he would fire the maid if she didn't admit to it. And I know she was just a child and kids lie to avoid punishment, but I think the scene was meant to show the kind of person she would grow up into.
I think she should blame herself for Jin's death because she told her father that she blames him because he(Mr. Paik) was the reason that Sun and Jin were on flight 815 in the first place. And by that same reasoning Jin wouldn't be working for Mr. Paik if not for some decisions that Sun made. anyways....

I think she blames Widmore. And she is working with him only to get her revenge on him.
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