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From the Third Chapter of the Book of Law.

"4. Choose ye an island!

5. Fortify it!

6. Dung it about with enginery of war!

7. I will give you a war-engine.

8. With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you.

9. Lurk! Withdraw! Upon them! this is the Law of the Battle of Conquest: thus shall my worship be about my secret house.

10. Get the stele of revealing itself; set it in thy secret temple -- and that temple is already aright disposed -- & it shall be your Kiblah for ever. It shall not fade, but miraculous colour shall come back to it day after day. Close it in locked glass for a proof to the world.
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"There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt
Love is the law, love under will"

It's a very interesting reading that's also available online with insightful commentary:
The Scarlet Sisterhood Commentary on Liber Al
I.A.O. 131 - Psychological Commentary on Liber AL vel Legis
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I can see why some would quickly dismiss 'The Book of Law' but content and message-wise it wouldn't be an off choice for Locke totally. I think the title is deceiving for many: it is not a book with reference to logic, social collectivity or law as understood in some rigid fashion. It is a book that puts will power and strength above everything else to challenge established norms, religions and prophets. Sounds familiar?

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I don't think the Book of Law belonged to John at all. For one thing he is named after John Locke, author of Civil Disobedience, the central tenet of which is that if you don't believe a certain law is just you are not morally obligated to follow it. This is John Locke to a T through the entire 4 seasons. He does what he instinctively feels is right, not what is considered right by the larger group. John Locke, the philosopher, leaves room for instinctual law, that is felt from within and not up for the group vote.
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Hey, Flaneuse - the quote you have above from "The Book" is pretty spot on. That is really interesting - good find.
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I agree with the first comment, john didnt think with his heart, he only picked out something interesting (in this case the knife), i think ben and locke are both special, itīs just that ben had a lot of power and that make him dangerous.....
 
 
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Hey, Flaneuse - the quote you have above from "The Book" is pretty spot on. That is really interesting - good find.
Thanks Steph. I thought it'd be an interesting read, especially that part of the 3rd chp.
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If Richard didn't want to alter John's fate why would he go to the trouble of watching Locke for years and testing him?



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Maybe young john chose correctly but Richard didn't want to alter john's fate in any way so he couldn't let on that he had chosen correctly. he just does a nevermind and leaves asap.
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From the Third Chapter of the Book of Law.

"4. Choose ye an island!

5. Fortify it!

6. Dung it about with enginery of war!

7. I will give you a war-engine.

8. With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you.

9. Lurk! Withdraw! Upon them! this is the Law of the Battle of Conquest: thus shall my worship be about my secret house.

10. Get the stele of revealing itself; set it in thy secret temple -- and that temple is already aright disposed -- & it shall be your Kiblah for ever. It shall not fade, but miraculous colour shall come back to it day after day. Close it in locked glass for a proof to the world.
"

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Love is the law, love under will"

It's a very interesting reading that's also available online with insightful commentary:
The Scarlet Sisterhood Commentary on Liber Al
I.A.O. 131 - Psychological Commentary on Liber AL vel Legis
Excellent! "I'll give you a war-engine....With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you" First thought- Smokey.
 
 
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Wait, wait, the "book of law" was written by Crowley? The Satan Worshipper? Now that puts a whole new spin on things for me. The island now seems like something out of an H.P.Lovecraft story! I wonder what the others worship at the temple? This might explain the paganistic way the others carry out their
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Based on the #10 of ch3 in the Book of Law above:

Could we guess that the "Temple" contains a stele (a slab usually decorated in commemorative sense or used as a territorial marker) which serves as their Kiblah (direction they should worship) and is closed in a locked glass.

If so is this the Magic Box and what more?
 
 
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