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4x09 - The Shape of Things to Come Airdate: April 24, 2008

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Old April 28th, 2008, 05:27 PM

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I was puzzled from the moment I saw this scene of dead Dr. Ray on the beach. Why did he have stitches in his cheek? Whenever we have seen him, on the freighter, he had a scar on his cheek, but no stitches. Wouldn't the stitches imply that dead Dr. Ray is from before Sayid and Desmond went to the freighter?
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I was puzzled from the moment I saw this scene of dead Dr. Ray on the beach. Why did he have stitches in his cheek? Whenever we have seen him, on the freighter, he had a scar on his cheek, but no stitches. Wouldn't the stitches imply that dead Dr. Ray is from before Sayid and Desmond went to the freighter?
That is mind boggling! I read about the same thing in "things I noticed" written by a guy name vozzek69 on DarkUfo.com. I couldn't even wrap my head around the explanation he was giving.

*re-read it*

Ok, now I'm not sure HE knows what he's talking about.
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I always thought he still had stitches in his cheek when Sahid and Desmond first met him. It could be then that the thread marks on his cheek look more apparent now that he's bloated with water.

However, there wouldn't be much sense to him having stitches if they weren't going to mean something with the purposeful anachronisms that keep popping up.
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That is mind boggling! I read about the same thing in "things I noticed" written by a guy name vozzek69 on DarkUfo.com. I couldn't even wrap my head around the explanation he was giving.

*re-read it*

Ok, now I'm not sure HE knows what he's talking about.
Hey darnzy! I really like that poster and usually read all of their stuff, but I haven't had a chance yet to read it. Is it worth it - you said you aren't sure he knows what he's talking about - do I bother? (Oh, I'll go read it, you know I will...lol!)

The other thing I noticed is the stitches seem really big (there are 4 of them). Aren't stitches usually smaller and closer together? And on freighter Dr. Ray, even though he has a stitchless scar on his cheek, he does not have any kind of scar across his throat.
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I was puzzled from the moment I saw this scene of dead Dr. Ray on the beach. Why did he have stitches in his cheek? Whenever we have seen him, on the freighter, he had a scar on his cheek, but no stitches. Wouldn't the stitches imply that dead Dr. Ray is from before Sayid and Desmond went to the freighter?
WHAT IF!!!!!

What if (remember the blood splatter on the wall where Sayid/Desmond were bunking on the boat)... WHAT IF.... the Doctor some duplicated because of time travel, and they killed "one" of him?
 
 
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Ew! I guess I assumed that splatter was from Brandon (r.i.p.) who snuck ashore with Minkowski. But, in reality, we don't know how Brandon ended up in the body bag. You could be right.
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i assumed the blood spatter on the wall was from a gunshot wound, not a slit throat...
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Ew! Well let's have a look - we'll see if all that time watching CSI has paid off! Ew! Yeah, it looks more gun shot-ish rather than knife-ish (I would think a knife wound would have left a more linear splatter).
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Okay, now I am REALLY freaking out! Look at this! The first picture is of Dr. Ray from episode 4x05 "The Constant"--> no scar on Dr. Ray's cheek! The next picture is from episode 4x07 "Ji Yeon" --> healing scar on Dr. Ray's cheek! The last picture is from 4x09 "The Shape of Things To Come" and there is a scar still with stitches and the throat thing. What is going on here? Is time going backwards?
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