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4x09 - The Shape of Things to Come Airdate: April 24, 2008

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i know what you mean. i had my eyeballs glued to the tv, so i wouldn't miss a single clue. i missed the guy's name tho...
His name was Bakir. I think.
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sorry...i don't mean to be a dum dum, but was tonights ep called "bakir" or was it called "the shape of things to come"?
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sorry...i don't mean to be a dum dum, but was tonights ep called "bakir" or was it called "the shape of things to come"?
It was "the shape of things to Come" I asked why the title hadn't been changed on the forum for season four and wednighter told me The head Moderator/supervisor was the only one who could change that. Bakir was the working title for the episode from what I understand.
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Can someone explain how/when Ben traveled through time? I thought his scenes tonight were just flashforwards?
 
 
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well, it is technically a flash forward, but there are clues that he is time travelling:

1. he literally "wakes up" in the middle of the desert, not quite sure where he is and he's wearing a parka.

2. he asks the hotel clerk in tunisia the date and confirms the year
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well, it is technically a flash forward, but there are clues that he is time travelling:

1. he literally "wakes up" in the middle of the desert, not quite sure where he is and he's wearing a parka.

2. he asks the hotel clerk in tunisia the date and confirms the year
Him waking up in the desert made me think about the polar bear collar / bones found that the red headed girl (Im forgetting names now) saw in the "dig"


Was that in Tunisia also?
 
 
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yes it was because charlotte who looked at the bear's collar was reading a tunisian newspaper. maybe there is a portal connecting the arctic to tunisia.

i bet you ben was in the arctic looking for penelope and ran into those guys working for her that found the signal from the island and got into a gun fight with them and that's why his arm was wounded.
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I don't think anybody volunteers to help him, they just think they are volunteering. He plays them like a mandolin.
Well after Sayed said this is not just your war. Ben looks serious up until the time he walks right past Sayed, then smiles real big. Sayed played right into his trap.
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yes it was because charlotte who looked at the bear's collar was reading a tunisian newspaper. maybe there is a portal connecting the arctic to tunisia.

i bet you ben was in the arctic looking for penelope and ran into those guys working for her that found the signal from the island and got into a gun fight with them and that's why his arm was wounded.
Hey.... I dont remember..... Were the guys in the desert on horses or camels?


Because.... Holy Crap.

WHAT IF....


When they time travel to the Arctic, a polar bear swaps places with whoever travels and when they travel to tunisia, a horse (like the black horse kate saw) swaps places.... and... the polar bear in tunisia can be explained by a test that they may have done to see what happened (like would they get a horse back) if they sent a polar bear to tunisia.

GASP... Maybe I'm on to something here!
 
 
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