why is libby the only one haunting - Page 5

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

Sidenote to Flaneuse: You are either right or not right about tautologies. *giggle*

I love it.. It's tautologies that are always right (!!) LOL

WELL STATED!!

"I see nothing wrong with personifying the island. Plus the whole show is also about relativism. Everyone has both right and wrong, dark and light, good and evil, in their lives. So we, as the audience, have to consider the show in reference to our own beliefs. This whole Lost site is nothing more than everyone's opinions. Don't judge each other too harshly - it could come back on you. "

the Island is a living breathing organism same as planet earth
and each living thing from plant to animal to human is related and has significance

and each death becomes a death for everybody else.

in war each human death is a death of humanity

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Originally Posted by dbeach

the Island is a living breathing organism same as planet earth and each living thing from plant to animal to human is related and has significance and each death becomes a death for everybody else. in war each human death is a death of humanity

Hey dbeach, I'm all for such immanent vitalism

But the earlier debate on this thread is not so much about personification of the island on those terms- rather about assigning to it the godly position of some ultimate judge. Sure that the fate of LOSTies and even the fate of some people off the island but somewhat related to it, very much depend on the island (ex: FFs). From its environmental conditions to its geographical location, from its special powers to other mysteries, the island has a lot of qualities that determine the choices & lives of the character. I just don't think that it all comes down to some judgment matter though. Such a reading soon falls short of many complexities going on in the show and then all we're left with would be some blind fatalism. Personally, I just like my 40 min of weekly TV entertainment to be more thought provoking than that

Than again, a matter of personal opinions..

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Originally Posted by dbeach

I think sabatoge exploded the plane on 9/22/04.

Ben may look the villain today ...but its still many epi's left to disprove that

I also think DHARMA funded by Hanso the arms peddler
was /is more dangerous than Ben and the Others

the Island is a war zone
and Truth is the first casualty in ANY war

The plane wasn't sabatoge they clearly point out that at the time that Desmond didn't enter the numbers in time cause the plane to be pulled out of it's course and broken up. Not sure which episode it was but they had found some printout of everytime the numbers were enter, and Desmond compare the time when he wasn't there to the time of the Losties coming to the island.
One says EKKO, another says ELKO, yet another says EKO and I thought when he first appear on the show some said he's ECHO. It does kind of crack me up when I seen some spell a name one way and another another way. I'm not a perfect speller myself. I'm a deaf person and I depend on the closed caption to follow whats being said on television shows. I get upset if one of the programs I enjoy watching and there's no cc coming up on the screen or it comes on/off later in the program. I've sent emails to the station pointing out to them that the program I was watching about the problem with the cc signal, I've been told okay we'll look into that. I once knew of a site where I use to go to and they would post the cc from each episode of Lost, my computer crash and I could never find that site again. So if anybody out there knows of this site please send me a message I'd would like very much to have it back in my favorites.

I agree I think it was very well established that Desmond inadvertently caused the crash of flight 815 by not pressing the button in time.

lookingeast2002
Lostpedia.com has transcripts for all the shows. They are fan created though and so could contain errors, but I have found them to be very accurate.
From the main page just type transcripts in the search box.

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

I think the show has personified the island, made it an entity unto itself. Tom's whole conversation about the island with Michael personifies it. Locke has looked into the "eye" of the island which personified it, etc... I see nothing wrong with personifying the island. Plus the whole show is also about relativism. Everyone has both right and wrong, dark and light, good and evil, in their lives. So we, as the audience, have to consider the show in reference to our own beliefs. This whole Lost site is nothing more than everyone's opinions. Don't judge each other too harshly - it could come back on you.

You two need to play nicely...

Sidenote to Flaneuse: You are either right or not right about tautologies. *giggle*

Alright QueenBeeSteph your right about my earlier post where I talked about spelling errors, It hit a little below the belt. I'm sorry, but I stand by my remark about captain sisko putting his own judgement behind the island's personification. It's my opinion, that is why I ended my post with "at least that's the way I see it" I'm not judging anyone.

11:53 AM

"Hey dbeach, I'm all for such immanent vitalism But the earlier debate on this thread is not so much about personification of the island on those terms- rather about assigning to it the godly position of some ultimate judge. Sure that the fate of LOSTies and even the fate of some people off the island but somewhat related to it, very much depend on the island (ex: FFs). From its environmental conditions to its geographical location, from its special powers to other mysteries, the island has a lot of qualities that determine the choices & lives of the character. I just don't think that it all comes down to some judgment matter though. Such a reading soon falls short of many complexities going on in the show and then all we're left with would be some blind fatalism. "

I too dont want the mystical Island to be the final purveyer of Truths
and I do agree with much of your comments

I think the Island is as alive as you or I
It is NOT a god to be worshipped

we all have power in choices that we make in life .. as do our LOSTies on the TV

for example "I never inhaled"

OR

"When I was a kid, I inhaled."

"That was the point," Obama

chuckle chuckle

Ok so last night I rewatched "?" and "Three Minutes" I can't believe how long its been since I watched those episodes..

One of the first things I thought about was this thread. Micheal IMHO is only haunted by Libby because she suffered.. Remember he shot her then she lived for hours.. Jack ended up giving her the Herione to make her comfortable. He watched her suffer, Hurley suffer and that is what he is keeping with him..

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HURLEY [trying not to cry]: Hey, it's Hurley. Hugo. I'm sorry I forgot the blankets. I'm sorry I forgot the blankets. [she opens her eyes] Libby?
[Libby struggles to say something. Jack enters.]
LIBBY: Michael.

Libby's last words before she dies is "MICHAEL"

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Originally Posted by Blackbear

I didn't hear whispers when Libby appeared (like we did when Regina appears in jungle) just hear a bit of music that played in the hatch. I think Libby is just the one who Michael feels MOST guilty about, so he has nightmares...

I think i heard whispers..! Unless it was my imagination..

i hope ana lucia comes back