why is libby the only one haunting - Page 4

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Originally Posted by captainsisko187

So… what does your picture look like so far? how did you connect all the dots?

I don't try to connect the dots to come up with one single picture

Every time we do that, something new adds up..so not only the picture, but also the dots are always changing. That's what I like about LOST.

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Originally Posted by darnzy

I don't think Eko was a "bad guy" at all, he just had a different perception of what good is, and it did not follow God's path. I mean look at the extremist Muslims as an example, what they think of as good is completley the opposite to what Americans think of as good. Who's right?

I agree with darnzy- Eko died not necessarily because he was bad, but perhaps rather because his character fulfilled the narrative function assigned. Actually I found his stance against the Smokey's "accept your guilt/sin" kind of projection, most heroic. "His work" then could just as well be facing his life-long guilt and putting an end to it. His life was driven by it and refusing to accomodate that guilt brought him death..Is it a punishment, or some ultimate end? I doubt that.. But again, that's just my interpretation

Has anyone seen the girl who played Ana Lucia recently? I saw one picture and she seems to have Morphed into a man. She has changed more than Walt.

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Originally Posted by darnzy

I don't think Eko was a "bad guy" at all, he just had a different perception of what good is, and it did not follow God's path. I mean look at the extremist Muslims as an example, what they think of as good is completley the opposite to what Americans think of as good. Who's right?

I didn’t know Americans had a general perception of what good and bad is?

As far as I know there are 6 billion people on this planet thus there are 6 billion different perceptions of good and evil. You might think that you share your neighbours idea of good and evil (except when you’re listening to your favourite rock band :P ), but thinking is all that it will be… You are bound to anthropocentrism restricted to your own individuality. In English, you will never know what good and evil feels like for another person.

Furthermore lets not forget our perceptions of good and evil are very much influenced by our environment. If not, all the way formed by our environment. A fact that a lot of people know, and use to spoon feed certain information to influence our stances on good and evil…

On topic:

So…you might not think Eko was a bad guy. Neither did I, in fact he was my favourite character next to Lock. But you and I are not the judge of that…
The island might be…

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Originally Posted by flaneuse

I agree with darnzy- Eko died not necessarily because he was bad, but perhaps rather because his character fulfilled the narrative function assigned.

Agree

Hmmm seems that we did connect those dots the same way…

Each character still on the island (and the ones of who were not supposed to be of..) have something they need tot do before they can die…

Would that imply that they cant die until that point?

The plane crash was fate attempting to put a stop to the Others' activities on the island – therefore, only certain characters were necessary to bring down Ben. As we’ve seen throughout the series, almost every character has played a critical role in affecting the actions of the others. On the other hand, DHARMA also played a part in rounding up the people to get on the plane, so, it's really a question of destiny.

I think Shannon died because she and Sayid both saw Walt. She was meant to die because of her fundamental change in character. The “old Shannon” would’ve never fallen in love with a man like Sayid, so fate choose to find a creative way to eliminate her so that she couldn’t interfere with other people’s actions, causing a potential disruption in the future timeline. Thus, her love for Sayid ultimately led her to her doom.

This is probably true for Libby, as well. She could have influenced Michael in a way that would have changed his destiny, or maybe by really falling for Hurley, was going to change her fundamental purpose, and so fate found a way to "course-correct" by having her killed.

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Originally Posted by captainsisko187

Judged by the island...

In my theory the island performs judgement after a triall period witch everyone on the island undergoes. Exept for the people on Ben’s initial list, because these individuals were “good guys” to begin with.

When the phrase comes up that someone “still has work to do” it means that that individual’s trial is not over yet and is therefore not supposed to die yet. ( Jack after falling form the airplane, John’s remarkable fast recovery after a near fatal gun shot, Michael not being able to commit suicide)

My theory popped up after the episode were ekko gets killed by Cerberus. Just before that he latterly is judged by the island who took the form as his brother. The Island gives him the chance to show that he has remorse for his passed crimes. Ekko denies that he has committed any crimes. After that his “brother” reveals to Ekko that he is not his brother and cant be persuaded by the arguments his brother might have felt for.

Judgement: “bad guy” . Trial period over and Cerberus takes him away, contrary to what we have seen before: ceberus looking Ekko in the eye when his trial was not over yet.

Any thoughts on this?

If Eko was your second favorite character why can't you spell his name properly? So are you saying the island is God or are you saying the island has a God-like mind?

I think sabatoge exploded the plane on 9/22/04.

Ben may look the villain today ...but its still many epi's left to disprove that

I also think DHARMA funded by Hanso the arms peddler
was /is more dangerous than Ben and the Others

the Island is a war zone
and Truth is the first casualty in ANY war

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Originally Posted by darnzy

If Eko was your second favorite character why can't you spell his name properly? So are you saying the island is God or are you saying the island has a God-like mind?

Also let's not forget what tautologies amount to: "A=B 'cause B=A !"

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Originally Posted by captainsisko187

I didn’t know Americans had a general perception of what good and bad is?

As far as I know there are 6 billion people on this planet thus there are 6 billion different perceptions of good and evil. You might think that you share your neighbours idea of good and evil (except when you’re listening to your favourite rock band :P ), but thinking is all that it will be… You are bound to anthropocentrism restricted to your own individuality. In English, you will never know what good and evil feels like for another person.

Furthermore lets not forget our perceptions of good and evil are very much influenced by our environment. If not, all the way formed by our environment. A fact that a lot of people know, and use to spoon feed certain information to influence our stances on good and evil…

On topic:

So…you might not think Eko was a bad guy. Neither did I, in fact he was my favourite character next to Lock. But you and I are not the judge of that…
The island might be…

You are being hypocritical, you are giving the island "personification" and then giving your own judgments through it. At least that is how I see it.

I think the show has personified the island, made it an entity unto itself. Tom's whole conversation about the island with Michael personifies it. Locke has looked into the "eye" of the island which personified it, etc... I see nothing wrong with personifying the island. Plus the whole show is also about relativism. Everyone has both right and wrong, dark and light, good and evil, in their lives. So we, as the audience, have to consider the show in reference to our own beliefs. This whole Lost site is nothing more than everyone's opinions. Don't judge each other too harshly - it could come back on you.

You two need to play nicely...

Sidenote to Flaneuse: You are either right or not right about tautologies. *giggle*