Three Curious Pictures! - Page 2

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

I guess what I'm trying to ask is this--> If Ben has ties to Hanso and Widmore has ties to Hanso, why is it that Ben and Widmore are enemies?

Does Widmore have ties to Hanso?

The Black Rock Ledger was in the possesion of the Hanso family right?
And they put it up for auction at Southfields......

So maybe Widmore has ties or connections to Hanso, but apparently not strong enough ties to allow him access to the Ledger or at least be able to buy it privately.

Oh, sorry!

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The Hanso Foundation was set up after World War II, with its founder Alvar Hanso moving from a munitions selling background to philanthropic entrepreneur. It is revealed [in the Lost Experience] that the Foundation had strong ties to both the Widmore Corporation and Paik Heavy Industries, both of which have been featured on Lost.

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Moments later {in D.O.C.}, when Sun goes to see him, she interrupts Mr. Paik having a conversation with his associates. The conversation is notably not subtitled despite all other Korean conversations being so in the episode. Translation has revealed that Paik was arguing about forged shipping documents which they were supposed to provide for the Hanso Foundation (or possibly vice versa). Paik warns that they must provide the equipment soon or their friends will become very annoyed (or possibly he will become very angry).

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The first key reference to the Paik Heavy Industries company was made on the Hanso Phone Line, during which a message by Thomas Werner Mittelwerk includes the following:

“ You've reached the office of Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelwerk, Senior Vice President, CEO and Chief Technologist of the Hanso Foundation. I will be unreachable for the next three weeks. However, for those employees of Paik Heavy Industries and Widmore Corporation engaged in active projects, I will be continuously updating the confidential information line. Please refer to your project manual for hotline access instructions. Thank you, and, namaste.

Sometimes I get ahead of myself!

Hmm...a box maker? If only we knew someone who owned a box manufacturing plant or worked in said box manufacturing plant...

Hurley? Locke? You guys got anything to say about this image?

What I am saying is

Maybe Widmore's ties to Hanso have been severed.

And maybe Ben played apart in the Widmore/Hanso fallout.

So..............

Widmore and Ben are enemies.

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What I am saying is

Maybe Widmore's ties to Hanso have been severed.

And maybe Ben played apart in the Widmore/Hanso fallout.

So..............

Widmore and Ben are enemies.

Ooh! That's a good thought! Like when Best Friends Forever (BFF) have fall out and then HATE each other. That could be why Ben calls Charles Widmore coming to the island is going to be a WAR!

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Hmm...a box maker? If only we knew someone who owned a box manufacturing plant or worked in said box manufacturing plant...

Hurley? Locke? You guys got anything to say about this image?

Hey! Good remembering! That's right.... three references to boxes - it's got to be something to my pea brain!

06:11 AM

I dn't know how many of us here have read it, and it has always remained a possible red herring (like so many others) but I read the book "Bad Twin". Supposedly the LOST producers decided not to publish more tied in books like it because Bad Twin gave away a major clue, much to thier displeasure (how that could have happened without the producers full knowledge always made this "info" suspect, but anyway).

In the book, the Hanso Foundation is a subsidiery of the Widmore Corp. This is all just a background passing clue that has no relation to the actual plot of the book. But for almost 2 years now I've been had my whle theory about the Widmore connection because of this. And I read the book before we'd even heard the name Widmore on the show! So indeed it was a major clue. Then we were introduced to Penny W. and since then this clue continues to prove true. But obviously the show has caught up to that plot point. But now...

I like the whole "Ben caused a break between Hanso and Whidmore" theory. It would explain a lot. Because even though Ben killed the Dharma Initiative on the island, and the DI has become mostly defunct, it is obviously alive in some (withered) aspect. Like a dying ember. When Juliet was recruited, there is an official image to the mainland company. Ben has always maintained some business relationship on the mainland, evidenced in many ways (the passports and money, the photo of him held by the people on the freighter, etc.) If there was no actual mainland company (be it "Dharma" or be it the name used when Juliette was recruited) why would Ben have all these busy, professional, ongoing connections on the mainland? Ben could have just killed the DI then lived in harmony with the Originals. But no, he's kept up some elaborate professional scheme of some sort.

I can't quite work it out, but Ben has created some new entity which didn't obliterate all of Dharma, but rather made it subordinate to his "company" - like he came to own or command what remains of it.

Just talking it out here....

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Originally Posted by BeefJello

Hmm...a box maker? If only we knew someone who owned a box manufacturing plant or worked in said box manufacturing plant...

Hurley? Locke? You guys got anything to say about this image?

Nice catch BeefJello! I forgot all about the box company.

BOX MAKER

as in Hugo....the owner of a box making company?
or John ...... an employee of said box making company?

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Originally Posted by BeefJello

Hmm...a box maker? If only we knew someone who owned a box manufacturing plant or worked in said box manufacturing plant...

Hurley? Locke? You guys got anything to say about this image?

They both have seen Jacob's Cabin too.. Don't know if it matter's here but something they both have in common..

I like the angle. I wonder if it will develope into something solid.