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| 4x05 - The Constant Airdate: February 28, 2008 |
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March 2nd, 2008, 07:31 PM
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Originally Desmond wasn't time traveling in 1996, but meeting Daniel then put him on a loop between 1996 and 2004. He was going back and forth between the two times. Daniel changed Desmond's future as well as his past. This means he WAS time traveling in 1996. This is a time period that brackets his being on the sailboat and pushing the button in the Swan. So why wasn't he time traveling then?
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He wasn't timetravelling then, it happened after the Helicopter came in the electric storm, "Side Effects"
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March 2nd, 2008, 08:51 PM
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It's weird that Desmond would voluntarily leave his constant to sail around the world. What happens if he has another incident on the boat? You can't just blank out for 75 minutes when you're sailing all by yourself. What if he falls into the ocean? And what about when he was alone in the Swan for 3 years because either Inman was off investigating the island or Inman was dead? What happens if Desmond blanks out and misses pushing the button? Why wasn't Desmond having episodes then?
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Because he didn't leave the island yet....
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This part of his life seems totally removed from the period where he time traveled uncontrollably. I'm guessing that that the episodes stopped and Desmond explained it to himself by thinking that he had been crazy for a short while but then regained his sanity, though that seems like a really cheap way out for the producers!
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I'm not too sure what you mean by this, try rewording it.
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(1.) Once Desmond lived long enough to be on the freighter with Sayid and make the call to Penny he changed his future, but that didn't change his past, so how did he manage on the boat and in the Swan that whole time without having episodes and accidentally killing himself?
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The future cannot be changed. The time line is all written at once. He didn't start jumping between time until he left the island, so I'm not sure what you mean.
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(2.) How MUCH time does the constant have to be in a person's life at different periods to save the person from dying??? Penny is in his past and his future, but she's gone from his life for more than 3 years he's on the island. Desmond shows up in Daniel's life only once before the island and once after. Does the job of a constant really only require 2 meetings?
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Technically, yes. You just need something or someone that is part of each time era you are jumping back and forth from.
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(3.) If Desmond had been time traveling when he was still in the military, why is he so confused when he does it after the Swan blows up? He should already be very familiar with what was happening to him. He should have been totally freaking out that his insanity was coming back and without Penny he was gonna die a horrible death.
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Because those things didn't happen yet. When he was originally in the army he wasn't time traveling yet. He can't do that until he leaves the island.
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