Lost may be the most indepth tv show of all time.

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1.) I am totally scratching my head over this too, Redglory! it's bugging me to no end! Why doesn't Desmond recognize Daniel when he sees him on the island? Why doesn't he look relieved an thrilled and grateful the second he lays eyes on Daniel because it means he wasn't insane 10 years before. You'd think that would be a major relief to him, right?

2.) Further, why isn't Daniel totally relieved to see Desmond on the island? He had found his constant! That's a big deal. It means he's not going to bleed from the nose and then die a horrible disorienting death, yet there is no look of extreme gratitude and relief on his face either. He and Desmond look at eachother like they're total strangers.


I think these are great questions.

I wonder if Desmond does not recognize Daniel because he has not met him yet, or rather he is not part of his "consciousness" yet because the past meeting (at Oxford) does not happen until the future (on the boat) leads him to his past. Once they have met in the past the future is changed and thus they now know each other and should respond as though there is a connection when they next meet. But previous to the jump back they wouldn't know each other...right?

This episode blew...







my mind away.

I kinda hate time travel, it ties my brain in a knot. Potpie's questions are great. My big fear has been that as the show reveals its secrets and wraps itself up I will still be confused. Like it will end and I will be left scratching my head. I was bummed at first when Lost had the flash forwards and the freighter people... I just wanted it to be about our lostie's adventures on a mysterious island but I think the show is just as awesome as ever and of course can't wait to see what happens next.

When did '04 desmond return after the first time he went back to '96? Also the '96 des did not go into the helicopter, it was the current one. The "side effects" of leaving the island triggered that whole episode.

The whole time, from desmonds point of view, he's traveling to the future then back. So officially there is no "04" desmond, at least in that episode.

The times he was seeing the future on the island are completely different than what is happening to him now. Leaving the island extremely progressed his condition. On the island he was just "remembering" not actually traveling between time. I think he is reliving his entire life after turning the key. But since you can't change the future according to Dan, he "remembers" the stuff that would have happend if he never turned the key and went back.

I think you need to watch it again.

Somebody needs to watch Donnie Darko. And watch Cloverfield while your at it. Then start watching LOST over again. Red Glory there are very few facts of Time Travel. Therefore writers can be creative about this. They don't have to say why Time Travel works this way. They just show us how it works in the show and we go along with it. Then theres a good bit that we enjoy and we wait a weak for some more good bits.

All and all we really like good and we like it in bits and peices. Althought sometimes they throw us a big bit of good and its not really a bit. Therefore some of us are very confused. I think that is you. You are confused with this show. Because the theme of the new season is getting to the point and realisticly revealing answers in a correct fashion of bits and big (yet not very bitly) bits.

Therefore you should watch those movies and then rewatch LOST from Season 1 to the current episode. Also make sure u pay attiention to the current episode this time.

There are no paradox's. You just don't get it. Therefore I must asume you aren't a extremely attentive viewer. He traveled to and back. Sort of like teleporting. Yet he teleported to, not just a diffrent place, but a diffrent time. He was jumping back and forth like the movie jumper but it was a bit more complicated then that. Plus he was jumping through time. As Daniel said "You can't change the future". So he didn't change the future in the past. He changed the future via using the past to help him change the futurer future in the less futurer future that we, and all but Desmond, call the present. Therefore he was using the past to help him change the future in the present.

You guys don't understand this whole time travel thing. I think you overthinking it or under thinking it. I got it perfectly well and was left, unfournately, with very few questions. The worst part about this episode is it raised very few questions. Infact at the moment I can't think of a single one besides what on earth were Daniel and Charlotte doing in the trailer for the next episode.

This was a straight foward and exciting episode. Extremely satisfying although no major questions have appeared to us. Which was a bit dissapointing I must admit.

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree.

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I think it's the best episode of this season so far. Even though I enjoy flashbacks and island plots more (especially when Locke, Ben or Hurley is involved), this episode blew my mind.

I agree with CableRunner that Desmond's story line keeps to prove itself to be a lot more central to LOST than it appears on the surface. Wasn't it quite a shock to see two LOST characters meeting in the past, talking about the future one of them has just been back from? And neither of them recognized one another on the island because 'that past' wasn't particularly realized then. Again, simply mind blowing..

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I disagree. I thought the episode did a good job of tying in Daniel a little more. I thought it was the best of season 4 so for.

Although, I am partial because Desmond is a favorite of mine.

Somebody already watched Donnie Darko - an entertaining and thought provoking movie that I really liked, but it's also a movie that was designed to make you think infinitely, because the story is open-ended and has loose ends that were only there for "thrill value" - the audience can interpret their meaning forever, but as far as an "all powerful" answer goes - there is no such thing. LOST is the same way. Things happen all the time to make you feel scared or excited, but they don't tie into the big picture (if there is one), and sometimes they contradict other aspects of the show. Where Lost and Donnie Darko go wrong is in presenting themselves as if there is something going on that will explain everything. They lead the viewer on. They can't decide if they want to be Back to the Future, or Blue Velvet (both great movies that present themselves honestly - one with answers, the other with no answers).

As for writing with the concept of time travel - just because something doesn't exist in real life doesn't mean "anything goes" and the audience will accept it no matter what. Good writing is taking a fantasy concept like time travel, saying "what if", and laying out a logical and consistent system so the story can move forward within that system, not jump around forever within a system that is constantly modifying itself. To expect the audience to believe, "Well... sometimes the castaways experience it this way, and other times that way... because this island is crazy and anything can happen - just go with it," - that's not consistent.

Before you get excited, let me add that I re-watched "The Constant" and found it enjoyable and understandable the second time around - so I have to eat my words and say that my initial criticisms don't really apply. This time, I watched it on ABC.com, rather than my fullscreen TV through fuzzy antenna reception, and I realized how important the look of the show is. For me, if it looks terrible, I can't get absorbed in the story. I was wrong to say that the episode blew. It is easily the best episode of Season 4 so far (which is still the worst season so far).

And the acting and dialogue still suck.

Treebeard, I don't think I need to use your suggested movies as Cliff's notes for LOST, then start watching the show all over again. That's condescending advice, and I'm sure that's the only reason you gave it - to make me feel like an idiot who hasn't been watching the right movies and shows.