Black Rock Auction - Page 5

did they not say the book was stolen by pirates???

I think Richard could be a spy for whomever
IF you remember his words to Locke at end of Season 3..
it hinted at the removal of Ben

I wonder IF Richard was on the original Black Rock that arrived on the Island and is the proof of eternal youth as in he is not appearing to age

Richard is certainly a pivotal figure in that he discovered Ben as kid in the woods

he brought Julia to the Island via the time warp factor

priate ship ... lost bounty .. dreams of eternal youth and the time travel mechanism
to "bring it on home"

and the yet to be revealed powers of the mystical Island LOST in time

or is the rest of the planet LOST ????
and the Island some type of paradise

i have to agree wit hteh earlier post about the sale of the ledger.
WHY would a member of the hanso family sell the book just to the highest bidder? WHY do they need the money?
if they just wanted to sell to a particular person then why not just do a private sale? I.e. whitmore. his company provided the pregnancy test for Darhma so we already know they are connected business wise.
as for pirates, how would they be legally be allowed to sell it at a auction? and if the book is a trasure map then surely they would go there and find said treasure.
IT MAKES NO SENCE TO SELL THE BOOK.

A private sale is a connection. A public sale, while still a connection, is a little easier to cover up the tracks or paper trail.

To me it didn't seem like Whitmore was all that suprised to win it, he knew he was just going to throw that paddle up if anyone said a higher number than his

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[DESMOND awakes back in the stairwell. He gets up, and runs down.]

[He comes to an auction.]

AUCTIONEER: The Black Rock set sail from Portsmith England on March 22, 1845 on a trading mission to the kingdom of Siam, when she was tragically lost at sea. The only known artifact of this journey was the journal of the ship's first mate, which was discovered among the artifacts of pirates on the Ile Sante-Marie off the coast of Madagascar seven years later. The contents of this journal have never been made public, or known to anyone outside the family of the seller, Tovard Hanso. We open the bidding on lot 2342 at 150,000 pounds. 150,000, sir. For 160? Do I hear one six- 160, sir. 170, sir. 180 on the phone. 200,000 pounds. 220,000 pounds, 240? 260,000 pounds, sir. 280? On the phone I have 300,000...320. 340,000 pounds. 360? 380...

[DESMOND attempts to enter.]

SUITED GUARD: This auction's reservation only, sir.

DESMOND: Listen, brotha, I just need to speak to that gentleman, just for a moment, okay?

SUITED GUARD: I'm sorry.

AUCTIONEER: Sold, for 380,000 pounds to bidder 755. Thank you.

Here is the transcript of the auction.

I disagree. There wouldn't have to be any paper trail with a private sale, but if so those papers would be easier to cover up. No witnesses. Unlike with a public auction. Most of us have probably sold things ourselves privately (to friends, or whomever) and not used paperwork of any kind, right?

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Originally Posted by Desmonds Brother

A private sale is a connection. A public sale, while still a connection, is a little easier to cover up the tracks or paper trail.

Wasn't there a portion of Find815 where it is mentioned that on its last voyage the Black Rock left port noticeably leaving in the wrong direction? Then it was never heard from again. Do any of you guys remember from which port the Black Rock lleft and where it was headed when it went the wrong way? I can't remember, but I feel like there is a discrepancy between what we learned in Find815 and what is said at the Black Rock auction.

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

Here is the transcript of the auction.

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The Black Rock was allegedly owned and run by the British trading group the New World Sea Traders. The slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, however slavery was not abolished in the British Empire until 1833. The company owned a fleet of fifteen ships, including a frigate, two sloops, and three slave ships. The Black Rock may have been one of these slave ships, though they were sold in 1882, a year after the Black Rock disappeared according to Lost Experience sources, suggesting the company may have had actually sixteen ships pre-1881.

The New World Sea Traders was owned and operated by Magnus Hanso, a former ship's captain who became a business entrepreneur. While no direct ownership has been stated, it is known that the Black Rock sailed out of slip 23 in Portsmouth docks, and Hanso's trading group managed slips 18 to 27. [1](although Portsmouth harbor in Britain has been a naval port since the mid 1700s. From 1808 the Royal Navy's West Africa Squadron, who were tasked to stop the slave trade, operated out of Portsmouth).

A different look of the Black Rock, from The Lost ExperienceAccording to articles revealed by Rachel Blake, the Black Rock disappeared in 1881, on a return voyage from a gold mining operation in the South Indian Ocean. Perhaps more interesting than the fact the ship was lost were the circumstances preceding and following its disappearance. According to traders on Papua New Guinea, the ship sailed away from port in an Easterly direction, rather than West to Africa, where it would exchange gold from the mines in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea for more slaves. According to the ship's manifest that was discovered, the Black Rock initially sailed from (and was supposed to return to) slip 23 in Portsmouth, Britain -- but no shipping company claimed ownership. A crew of some 40 men, along with an uncounted number of slaves, was presumably lost at sea.[2] Magnus Hanso was known to still have a hands-on passion for the sea and insisted on captaining several voyages every year. It is likely that he was captaining the Black Rock himself when the ship disappeared, based on the note on the blast door map.
The sale of the company in 1882 to the East Ocean Trade Group saw the remainder of the New World Sea Traders slaving and military vessels converted to legitimate trading ships. In the 1950s, the Hanso Group purchased the East Ocean Trade Group, and renamed it to the Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants. (Rachel Blake Copenhagen 02)

This was actually from the first game - "The Lost Experience"

Also who was bidding against mr widmore in the auction there was another bidder on the phone???