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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:11 AM

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The writer of the journal was the first mate of the Black Rock.
And who was the first mate of the black rock?

RICHARD ALPERT.

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remember ben told locke to imagine a magical room where what ever u wanted would be inside?

did ben go back in time and bring lockes father to the island or something?
 
 
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The writer of the journal was the first mate of the Black Rock.
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RICHARD ALPERT.

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The journal that Charles Widmore buys in the auction is the same journal referenced by Oscar Talbot in Chapter 5 of the Find 815 ARG. Talbot was working for a branch of the Widmore Corporation, and says that his employers had the journal.
Talbot.. I recognize this name from Locke.. Wasn’t that the last name of the kid who came to him about his dad was going to marry his mother..
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That was Peter Talbot. I guess he could be related to the Talbot in Find815. Nice tie in.
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I'm new here- what's "Find815"??
 
 
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I'm new here- what's "Find815"??
It is a online Lost game. Find815 is the second one. The first was called the Lost Experience...I think.
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you guys are wicked. richard alpert the first mate, talbots visiting locke...i swear i can't keep up. my brain hurts.

tovar could be alvar's son? the lost experience said that alvar was in self imposed seclusion, if i remember correctly, so maybe tovar is a son or a brother and auctioning off his stuff?
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I may be just reaching but during the auction people were using cell phones. I dont think cell phones were popular and that small in 96. I could be wrong. I was only 11 at the time.
Also, maybe the diary led Penn to set up the artic station. That led to the discovery of the island when the Swan station blew. Hurley did draw a picture of an eskimo in the mental hospital in the flash foward.
Another theory could be Richard is plotting against Ben. If Black Rock disappeared and nobody was heard from again then how did they get the diary? Maybe Richard found it and gave it to Hanso so they can take out Ben while he works as a spy. We see that it is nearly impossible to get on the island. The diary has clues and info about the island and it is a way for Hanso to get there without Richard being found out by one of Ben's "people".
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The diary belonged to Hanso already. It had been in his family for generations, and as far as the auctioneer knew, no one outside the Hanso family had read it. My question is if it had been in his family for generations why would he sell it now to any random who bid highest? Why let the secrets out? I'd say the auction was fixed, but why bother with that? Hanso could have just given it to the person of his choice.

[quote=Aljoe07;40609.... Maybe Richard found it and gave it to Hanso so they can take out Ben while he works as a spy. The diary has clues and info about the island and it is a way for Hanso to get there without Richard being found out by one of Ben's "people".[/QUOTE]
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