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4x04 - Eggtown Airdate: February 21, 2008

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Old February 27th, 2008, 05:56 PM

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Something that might be of relevance, when some of the chicken references
in this episode are concerned. I wrote on another thread (Ben's refrigerator) about an earlier chicken reference from Season 3 where Locke checks Ben's fridge and accuses him of cheating and missing the island spirit. To Locke's surprise, he found Ben living like he lives, using electricity and eating chicken cooked in a fully furnished kitchen..

In Eggtown, it seemed rather curious that Locke came to mention killing a chicken twice; first to Ben and later, when answering Kate's question about the blood on his hands. In both cases he looked cheerful and refreshed, though not without some signs of anxiety.

In Ancient Greek culture, Asclepius was believed to be the demigod of health and medicine with powers to heal and mend, and the traditional sacrifice to him when one asks for recovery, was often a rooster sacrifice. Socrates' Apology includes the most famous reference to this: After his trial, Socrates says that he owes Asclepius a rooster, implying that he's content with taking his death-penalty as a cure to his dreadful situation (being judged by the ignorant, false accusations etc).

Now, I don't think Locke's looking for a "similar cure" I rather take his chicken killing as a sign of his will to move on and re-collect his strength, recuperate and recover from both the gun-shot wound, and from his recent state of confusion. Locke's also planning to invite everyone for dinner [where there'll be some poultry course I'm assuming ], so I'm thinking he's gradually gaining some clarity and planning a move.

I am not sure if Kate holds any sacrifical value to Locke, but his banishing of Kate could be interpreted respectively as well.
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I also read, and i don't know how relevant this is to your thread flaneuse, that Roosters are territorial. So maybe Locke killed Ben's chicken, and its symbolism is that there is a new "rooster" in town.
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These are not theories looking for a specific explanation but possible readings, since LOST is a production with ample inter-textual references to religion(s), myths, philosophy and literature. Nobody's 'crowing about' for anything, so no need for the false alarm.
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lockedown, it's just that lost is so rich with symbolism and clues, it lends to open discussion about everything we see on the show, even things that most people would consider trivial. we don't mean to hen-peck about it.

haha hahaha hen-peck...get it? hah ahaha. love your jokes lockedown
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I don't think either of your theories are anything to crow about.
This is open discussion about Episodes. If you're looking for theories you're in the wrong forum.
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I thought Kate's statement "You've got blood" was strange. Most people would have finished that sentence with "...on your hands." Which might be exactly what John is going to end up with - someone's blood on his hands (well, I guess he already has Boone's blood on his hands), but maybe he is going to do something severe...

Then John's statement of "I just killed a chicken" was interesting to me, too.In slang terms a chicken is a coward. Desmond was a coward in the army and is looking for his honor; John was a coward (?) and had to get Sawyer to kill his dad, Anthony Cooper - so I just started wondering if that statement was about doing something to someone else or himself and not just a bird!

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locke also has naomi's blood on his hands, and kate being the one to say it is apropo as naomi died in her presence.
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locke also has naomi's blood on his hands, and kate being the one to say it is apropo as naomi died in her presence.
Ugh! Thank You Pchee - I knew there was someone else Locke had killed but for the life of me could not remember who it was!
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I also read, and i don't know how relevant this is to your thread flaneuse, that Roosters are territorial. So maybe Locke killed Ben's chicken, and its symbolism is that there is a new "rooster" in town.

That's a good one. I'm still on the Locke is weak tip.
 
 
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