Kate's baby as a clue to island time - Page 3

If we assume they are about to get off the island, after about 100 island days, then at least 9 months would have elapsed in the outside world - assumes it is plausible to the outside world that Kate was 3 months pregnant on the plane.

At least 12 months would have elapsed in the outside world if the "story" is that Kate conceived on the island. It could be more than 12 months, as Kate could be assumed to have conceived at any point while on the island. So I would guess that outside world time elapsed is 4 to 10 times island time elapsed.

Aaron's current age does not mean anything, as we do not know how long they have been off the island at time of trial - only his age at rescue matters with respect to inventing a plausible story.

This could be the reason Kate has custody of Aaron. If the islanders were made aware of the time difference before rescue and had to invent a story accordingly, then Claire could not claim Aaron as her baby, because he would not appear to be old enough. A baby that age could only be explained by saying that he was conceived after the crash (3 month old baby, world view that crash happened 1+ year ago).

But you are still looking at the outside world time opposite from me. If the island is experiencing days go by while the outside world only experiences minutes, Kate's pregnancy couldn't be explained.

I really don't care that much. It's all blowing my mind trying to think of island time vs outside time when we aren't even sure yet which way it's going. I have to think less.

I thought it was somewhat clear that time passes slower on the island compared to time off the island.

The losties estimate they have been on the island for a little over 100 days.

1.When Sayid first sees Naomi's sat phone he says he has never seen technology like this before. Now maybe Sayid just wasn't aware of this technology, but I took it as a clue that that technological advances have been made since their "time" on the island. A 100 days would be that much time for technology to advance but if that 100 days on the island was equal to years off the island then it explains the sat phone.

2. When Kate's mom meets with Kate during her trial she says she has been fighting her cancer for the last four years. Now one of the first things Kate would have to do when getting off the island would be to stand trial, so I am assuming that the flash forward we saw in "eggtown" happened relatively soon after they got off the island. So does that mean that the last four years Kate's mom is talking about is the "time" that has gone by for the rest of the world since 815 crashed on the island?

Yes, it is clear that time passes slower on the island. Otherwise, how could the baby possibly be explained.

As for the length of time between rescue and trial, almost anything is plausible. In Atlanta we have a guy who killed 3 people while escaping from a courtroom in front of many witnesses, and he confessed. That was 3 years ago and he has not gone to trial yet.

It has taken 60+ episodes to cover 100 days on the island. It seems very unlikely that they will spend many more days there. So Aaron leaves the island at age 3 or 4 months, after they were all missing for one to three years, and it took them 2 years after rescue to start the trial. That seems most likely.

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Originally Posted by LonesomeCowboy

Good post L*H I think you are right, time moves slowly on the Island compared with the outside world. if i was any good at maths or physics, I'd bw able to work out the difference. If the missile, should have taken 30 secs, but took 31 minutes, then time on the Island moves 1 hour to every outside world minute? does that work? 1 day would equal 24 mins, 1 week equals 168 mins on the Island, so 8,736 mins (145.6 hours) would equal 1 year, no it doesn't work, that would mean a week on the island was just over a year in the outside world, unless I'm at bad as maths as I fear. can anyone help me out on this?

You are saying two opposite things here. If time on the island was going slower, one minute would pass as 1 hour elapsed in the outside world.

I think with the evidence of the missile, we will actually find that time is elapsing in the outside world much slower. This way your theory of one minute out there matching one hour on the island will hold true and not be counter to the statement made.

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Originally Posted by Dax

Yes, it is clear that time passes slower on the island.

Hmmm, I'm new here and don't want to step on any toes but I agree with the posts that are saying time is slower in the outside world.

My Reasons:

1. Dan's experiment on the island shows they go through more minutes than the freighter
2.

Spoiler for more evidence:

3. I guess that's all I got

L*H you are right, I did apologise for my maths before I started working out these calculations. ok so everything in my earlier post is the wrong way round, maybe 1 day on the Island equals argh I give up

I seem to be the breaker of everyones hopes, so i'll do my thing

1. who said it was kates or claires baby? Just because it has the name Aaron doesn't mean a thing. I know like 6 Aarons. We all know Kate is a shady @#$$%...who knows what kind of scam is going on. It's FAR too early to speculate whos baby that is. It had a big debut of about 20 seconds...thats awfully quick to make speculations on whos baby it is.

2. As far as the time thing goes...I don't know what to believe here. First of all, i DON'T think it's going to be something crazy like 100 days = 4 years. Because we're talking about time here, it brings me to thinking EXTREMELY differently. Time is only defined as a space in which things happen. It reminds me of the concept from Men In Black where people always conceive the world as a huge place, when it could quite possibly be one REALLY small place. OR think of the whole worm hole CONCEPT(not an actual worm hole itself). It's relativity. If 1 hour was made up of 30 minutes up would you age faster? No, but you would live longer...get what im saying? It's pretty philosophic though, and for the most part the writers do a good job with keeping everything relatively logical. So I am expecting some sort of twist like that.

3. Sayid and the sat phone. Because he hasn't seen that technology doesn't mean it doesn't exist, he just hasn't seen it.

I agree that the 31 min. difference argues in favor of slower time off-island. And I can not explain that.

But I do believe it to be extremely likely that the child is Claire's. It looks to me like the child is about 2 in the FF, not 3 or 4 estimated by most. I am placing a lot of significance on the scene where Kate's mother desparately wants to see her grandson. I believe that indicates that she (and the world) believe the child to be Kate's biological son.

I also believe that the rescue occurs fairly soon. So how could Kate emerge after about 4 months on the island with a 3 month old child that she gave birth to? Only if the crash occurred at least 9 months ago (and then only if she were 3 months pregnant at time of crash).

Given that Kate faced murder charges, I find it implausible that she would have been allowed to keep any child other than her own (or at least what they thought was her own child).

another important point is that kate's lawyer wanted to bring aaron into the trial.

that could be:

a) because the world doesn't know she has him or
b) another way to show her as a good person if she is caring for aaron because of a promise she made to claire or just because she accepted to responsibility when no one else wanted it