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Old February 23rd, 2008, 06:52 AM

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It's not Kate's baby. It's Claire's baby. The world outside the island onlyl thinks it's Kate's baby. To them Kate has been gone long enough to have gone through a whole pregnancy, had the baby, and had it grow to around 3 or more years old. I was saying that because of the time delay off of the island, it would be totally believable to them that Aaron is Kate's baby, timewise. Especially if there is no Claire around to disagree. Since she's dead, Zed, Claire's dead.

oh, i understand now. sorry pot pies, what i read earlier i thought you were suggesting that kate had the baby biologically. but i get what you are saying now.
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Let's hope they never do a DNA test on that baby!
 
 
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i just had a funny thought about jack, kate and sawyer appearing on maury povich.
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Yes, the world thinks it is Kate's baby. That is why her mother said "I want to see my grandchild". So time is passing by slowly on the island compared to the real world. No one would believe it to be Kate's baby unless they were missing for at least a year.
 
 
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I have two thoughts that are not my original ideas, but I've read them somewhere:

1) Kate's mother said she had been dying for six months for the past 4 years. Someone did the math and came up with the number... wait for it....eight, one of "the numbers."
Well, if thats true then she's used up 8 of her 9 lives. I guess she's going to actually finally die in 6-months, eh? Or is this only true if she were a cat? I guess that's why they call her whiskers.
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Kate so far has only been on the island for 92 days, not anywhere near long enough to have a nine month pregnancy (which is really closer to 10, if you ask a doctor), have the baby, and have it grow to around 2 years old before a rescue takes them off the island.

So how many days in real time is equivalent to 92 days of island time? Does the rest of the world think they've been gone for four years? Someone on Losttalk recently speculated that 4 months of island time equals 4 years in real life. This is particularly interesting in light of the fact that Kate's mother tells Kate that doctors have been telling her for 4 years that she only has 6 months left to live.
I'm coming to think that the opposite is true about the time line. I first thought the island was on some kind of accelerated time but after the missile thing with Daniel last week, it flipped. The way the time delay was set up it looks like maybe 4 months of Island time equals 4 years in the outside world. (Those numbers could easily be way off but I'm just using the examples you already used). Daniel waited for the missile to land on the island, indicating some lag in their perception of time.

Back to my original question. If Kate is passing Aaron off as her own child than how does she explain having enough time for a 9+ month gestation? They have thus far experienced the equivalent of three months on the island while the real world thinks they've been gone only a few weeks.

If your version of time comes to be true than I understand her passing the baby off as her own. But if in fact the opposite is true, I just don't understand.
 
 
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Time is important on the island but not to the rest of the world. Whatever powers the island has slows down time only on the island. Thats why Daniel's rocket showed 31 minutes ahead of the island time. But time moves regualrly everywhere else. Remember Ben showed Jack that Boston won the world series. So if we assume that for every hour of island time equals two hours of world time. so 3 months on the island is 6 months world time. Thats enough time to have a baby even if its pre-mature. So Aaron can pass as Kate's son.
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Good post L*H I think you are right, time moves slowly on the Island compared with the outside world. if i was any good at maths or physics, I'd bw able to work out the difference. If the missile, should have taken 30 secs, but took 31 minutes, then time on the Island moves 1 hour to every outside world minute? does that work? 1 day would equal 24 mins, 1 week equals 168 mins on the Island, so 8,736 mins (145.6 hours) would equal 1 year, no it doesn't work, that would mean a week on the island was just over a year in the outside world, unless I'm at bad as maths as I fear. can anyone help me out on this?
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not to bring up a completely different topic, but someone mentioned the red sox. isn't it interesting that the red sox won 2007 world series? now, we don't know if the freighter four (FF) are from 2007 since time is slower in an island perspective or not. i know lapidus specifically mentions the yankees, but yankees fans hate red sox fans - so he wouldn't want them to win the world series regardless. he doesn't have to be talking about the championship series between the bosox and ny where boston comes back from down 3-games and wins the thing to go on to the world series.

anyway...i think the FF's time perspective is possibly 2007. what are your thoughts?
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So if we assume that for every hour of island time equals two hours of world time. so 3 months on the island is 6 months world time. Thats enough time to have a baby even if its pre-mature. So Aaron can pass as Kate's son.
The only person who's aging we are able to observe is baby Aaron who seems to be growing according to island time. If what you say were true he would be accelerating at double the speed that he is. It's hard to tell but if that were the case someone may have mentioned how fast he was developing. Also, Sun's pregnancy occurred about one month into their time on the island and she is far from showing any signs of pregnancy.

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