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4x03 - The Economist Airdate: February 14, 2008

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Old February 21st, 2008, 07:12 PM

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I thought it was interesting how the golf course sprinklers came on right after Sayyid shot the dude.

any meaning to it?
I doubt it. but just found it interesting.
 
 
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IDK.......
Nice theatrical element....
Symbolizes washing away the "bad" guys.....
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if you talk to some of the people that think that scene was out of order with the rest of the flash forward in the economist then it probably has some deep grand meaning that will only be revealed at the season finale.............
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Default Symbolism of water in "The Economist"

Hmmm...the sprinklers could be a "washing away of the bad guys," like Folie a Deux says, but I wonder if there isn't more to it. Water and rain in general in literature often signify baptism and/or redemption.

1.) In which case, the sprinkler-rain could be a sign that Sayid has been reborn into a new phase of his life. This episode is, after all, the first glimpse we get of Sayid's life post-island.

2.) If the golf scene takes place after the dead Elsa scene, the sprinklers could be symbolic of Sayid's rebirth as a killer. Yeah, I know he's killed before, but maybe this time it's voluntary. All the other times he's been forced into it by people and circumstances more powerful than himself. So this time maybe he's transformed into a killer on the inside as well as the outside?

3.) If rain often means redemption, the sprinklers could be ironic. It's rain, yeah, but it's artificial so either it's only a very shallow redemption, or it doesn't count at all. He might even be more damned that ever.

4.) In one of the 1st scenes in "The Economist" Sayid picks up some snow off of a mailbox in Berlin. He crushes it in his palm and throws it away. Like Lady MacBeth, who keeps trying to wash the blood of her hands (and therefore wash the guilt from her conscience), maybe he feels guilty for all the killing he's doing and is also trying to wash the guilt from his conscience?

4a.) Of course, if Sayid feels no guilt for his violence, the washing of his hands with the snow is incredibly ironic. I don't mean that he self-consciously picked up the snow and thought, "Gee, I'm clever, doing this MacBeth reference when I don't feel bad at all!" I mean it's a wink to the audience from the writers, that's all.

**One thing I noticed is that although there is water and rain (artificial, but still...), but there is no rainbow. In the Bible, God uses the rainbow after the flood to show his covenant with man. It is a beautiful sign that all is forgiven, that it's safe to start over again, and of His promise never to wipe out humanity again. (At least not until the end of the world when the poop hits the fan again--Doh!) No rainbow, no forgiveness; no peace, no justice. Like Credence says, there's "a bad moon rising" (to keep with the weather analogy--yuk yuk) More bad stuff is to come.

I realize that some of these interpretations are in conflict with eachother, but hey...it's valuable to throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

I'll keep thinking about it...



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any meaning to it?
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