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Old February 17th, 2008, 08:27 PM

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Sayid blamed The Others for Shannons death. He didn't believe it was his fault at all. Althought it was His and Ana's fault mainly. Also if "Walt" Was the Cerberus then it was The Cerberuses fault also.
 
 
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i don't know why but this whole plot line bothered me. if he knows who she really is and she knows who he really is, how are they supposed to have real feelings for each other. it was a futile exercise, no one was going to give up any real information to the other.

i still miss the point. he wanted to know who she was working for and she wanted to know who he was working for? is that it?
 
 
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Yeah, but he didn't know until the very end that she wasn't who she claimed to be. I think he had real feelings for her--he strokes her hair and closes her eyes when she's dead and later he's all shook up and weepy for the first time we've ever seen. Hard to know if she had real feelings for him. She turned vicious so quickly. Still though...I bet she could have easily shot him dead right on the spot if she had wanted to, rather than just shooting him in the arm.

In the end I don't know if it matters whether or not Elsa had real feelings for Sayid, just that he had them for her. It's important that no matter how many people he's killed he's still capable of being tender and vulnerable and to genuinely care for someone. The inner conflict is why his story remains interesting to me, just like with Kate, Jack, and basically everybody else.



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i don't know why but this whole plot line bothered me. if he knows who she really is and she knows who he really is, how are they supposed to have real feelings for each other. it was a futile exercise, no one was going to give up any real information to the other.

i still miss the point. he wanted to know who she was working for and she wanted to know who he was working for? is that it?
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i agree that sayid is a deep and interesting character and i too would love to see more of his story.

so, do you think that him meeting up with her in the coffee shop was random? that it was orchestrated by her and not by him?
 
 
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It was definitely orchestrated by her, even though the whole time he thought he knew what was going on and she didn't!

It reminds me of The Long Con, where Sawyer tells Cassidy a long con is where you get the mark to think it's his/her idea but really it was your idea all along. Ironic because Cassidy thinks it's her idea to learn the long con when really Sawyer gave her the idea so that SHE could be his long con!

The totally great thing about that episode is that even though die hard fans know there is always a parallel between the current events and the flashback scenes of any episode, still I was totally shocked that the whole time Sawyer was conning the Losties. He used a long con to get the guns back in that episode. Kate thought AnaLucia was after the guns and that it was her idea to warn Locke about it. Locke thought it was his idea to hide the guns. And so on. I guess I would be an easy mark for a good con man. Especially if that con man was Sawyer.

Sawyer would have really respected Elsa, if only he knew the story. Her long con was great.



I agree that sayid is a deep and interesting character and i too would love to see more of his story.

so, do you think that him meeting up with her in the coffee shop was random? that it was orchestrated by her and not by him?[/quote]
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The totally great thing about that episode is that even though die hard fans know there is always a parallel between the current events and the flashback scenes of any episode, still I was totally shocked that the whole time Sawyer was conning the Losties. He used a long con to get the guns back in that episode. Kate thought AnaLucia was after the guns and that it was her idea to warn Locke about it. Locke thought it was his idea to hide the guns. And so on. I guess I would be an easy mark for a good con man. Especially if that con man was Sawyer.

You didn't finish this sentence. You never said what the tottally great thing about the episode was.
 
 
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It's the part after the comma: that I should have known, I should have seen that what was happening in the flashback was exactly what was happening in the current story (minus Sawyer's hesitation and guilt afterwards), but I didn't. It totally blindsided me! I was v. impressed with the writers when I saw that episode last summer.


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When you said "That" episode I thought you were referring to the Economist. Then you went tottally off track with "The Long Con." I thought you were changing back to "The Economist" when you were continueing to talk about "The Long Con."

Sorry. I was pretty interested to see if there was a parallel between "The Economist" Flashfoward and On Island Scenes. Because I didn't catch one that was as clear as "The Long Con" was.
 
 
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i don't think that there was supposed to be a parallel this time. more of a juxtaposition. sayid is a character known for his intelligence and always making the right moves. i think the FF shows us that he also makes the wrong ones, especially after we realize at the end that he's teamed up with BEN.
 
 
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Teaming up with Ben sounds like a right move to me. Common Pchee. You want Ben to keep protecting them? You best be doing what he says!
 
 
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