Dean Moriarty - Page 2

Can I just say, I'm wicked jealous that you are able to enhance that so well! I go cross-eyed pausing and still-framing on my TV and get nothing out of it. Kudos!

Okay - they gave us such a clear shot of Michael's passport. Weird, right? Well it turns out that there is something even more strange... Michael and Ben's fake passports both have the same ID number: HNSO12153. HNSO would seem to me to indicate HANSO. Now what really has my mind racing is how many times we've seen Hanso this season (the logo was on one of Harper Stanhope's certficates).

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

So one of Ben's secret identities is Dean Moriarty from Jack Kerouac's "On The Road." So is Ben trying to tell us that he is really Neal Cassady? (interesting that Jack K.'s character's last name is "Paradise.")

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Is Ben Dr. (since he is a vetrinarian?) Moriarty, arch enemy of Sherlock Holmes?

from the forward to "Big Sur" by Kerouac

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"Enter Neal Cassady, the legendary driver, Ginsbergs fabled "cocksman and Adonis of Denver," who blew into New York with his girlfriend Luanne and a fired-up determination to learn all about writing from Allen [Ginsberg], Jack, and Bill [burroughs], in return for for which he'd tell them all about his life in the West, and the Beat Generation was ready to roll."

I can't figure out what connection that Ben would have with Cassady, except they are pretty much polar opposites. Cassady worked on the railroad, and was constantly juggling women. He led a relatively simple and playful existence, and did some time for weed, as you read in "Big Sur". Kerouac's name in the book, "Sal Paradise" could also be read as 'its all paradise", which I rather like. interesting find.

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I can't figure out what connection that Ben would have with Cassady, except they are pretty much polar opposites. Cassady worked on the railroad, and was constantly juggling women. He led a relatively simple and playful existence, and did some time for weed, as you read in "Big Sur". Kerouac's name in the book, "Sal Paradise" could also be read as 'its all paradise", which I rather like. interesting find.

Right, that is a funny point about them being polar opposites. I've read that somewhere else on this site about "Paradise," too, maybe in the Lost book section.

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

Okay - they gave us such a clear shot of Michael's passport. Weird, right? Well it turns out that there is something even more strange... Michael and Ben's fake passports both have the same ID number: HNSO12153. HNSO would seem to me to indicate HANSO. Now what really has my mind racing is how many times we've seen Hanso this season (the logo was on one of Harper Stanhope's certficates).

I still think it is extremely interesting that HNSO, (see the upper right corner of both passport pictures above) of all the letters and combinations in the English alphabet, shows up on Ben and Michael's passports. Is it just an easter egg for us to laugh at or should we think that Hanso Foundation, which started the Dharma Initiative - which was purged by Ben, now has a some kind of top secret, double-agent spy kind of relationship with Ben?

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Originally Posted by queenbeesteph

Right, that is a funny point about them being polar opposites. I've read that somewhere else on this site about "Paradise," too, maybe in the Lost book section.

I still think it is extremely interesting that HNSO, (see the upper right corner of both passport pictures above) of all the letters and combinations in the English alphabet, shows up on Ben and Michael's passports. Is it just an easter egg for us to laugh at or should we think that Hanso Foundation, which started the Dharma Initiative - which was purged by Ben, now has a some kind of top secret, double-agent spy kind of relationship with Ben?

That is curious. It could be that Ben has doctored older passports that he found on the island, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hanso didn't have some kind of relationship with Ben, after all they had invested in the island it would seem they would accept even a lukewarm frienship over an openly hostile one, perhaps Ben gave them handouts from time-to-time, like future presidential election results and things of that nature, assuming he is experimenting with time travel. a thought: Just because the US revolted against British rule in the 1700's doesn't mean the US president can't get into a decent hotel in London.