Time Warp Anybody? - Page 3

Pot Pies I had an EXTREMELY sarcastic responce to that. But I kept it to myself. And I enjoyed it.

If...By some crazy chance DL and CC flat out lied to us and multiple timelines are there, I don't think it will be a huge twist. If it is true I belive we will find out in Season 4 or 5.

How could multiple timelines be going on and it NOT be a huge twist???? If that's what's going on it will be a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Treebeard4life

Pot Pies I had an EXTREMELY sarcastic responce to that. But I kept it to myself. And I enjoyed it.

If...By some crazy chance DL and CC flat out lied to us and multiple timelines are there, I don't think it will be a huge twist. If it is true I belive we will find out in Season 4 or 5.

Because besides that fact its confirmed that thats not going on it is way too obvious. Like Sawyer being the "He" Would that "He" be a season 6 twist and be Sawyer? Of course not! They hint to it so much that it isn't a big deal. If thats the season 6 twist then basiclly its not a twist because we all said it! Personally i'm keeping multiple timelines out of my head because I think they are hinting towards it to distract us.

I'm definitely a believer in all these different Time theories but I think that after the last episode, they've given away an answer and it therefore cannot be the answer. Does that make sense? They hint at absolutely everything and one or all of them will be right in the end. I've said it before, I think the big twist at the end won't be a big twist at all and a lot of the theories will build up to make the story come to an end. But Time won't be the only one, because now they've hinted at it and that can only mean it isn't the final answer.

I have now read two transcripts of podcasts where Lindelof says no time travel, and then another where Cuse says yes there was time travel, esp in 'Flashes before your eyes" Either the producers are lying, or judging fan reaction and tilting the plot in that direction,either way, we can't take them at their word all of the time. Both have stated they lied to their bosses about plot and direction to get the show on the air (it's all in an E!Online article) so please, we must stop bringing up what they've said as completely factual. Remember, Jack was going to die in the pilot, now he's had the most back (and forward) stories... so how much can we trust.

Post a theory, have an interesting argument, and we'll have some fun.

Theres obviously some sort of time delay between the boat and the island hence the 31 minutes. But i agree with LH i dont think there will be one big twist just a series of stories all coming together to create the ending. There are far to many unanswered questions and bits that dont make sense i think they will clear all these wierd bits up during the final season to create the end of lost i mean it'll take a full season with all the unanswered questions that are out there lol.

Out of all the theories, I have read, I think the time-loop theory fits best. Although the writers have dismissed time travel, this is slightly different. I also agree with cable runner that things have moved on from series 1 and Lost has evolved into something more than it ever meant to be. Ie Jack was supposed to die early on and Ben was only a bit part when it was first conceived.

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Originally Posted by LonesomeCowboy

Out of all the theories, I have read, I think the time-loop theory fits best. Although the writers have dismissed time travel, this is slightly different. I also agree with cable runner that things have moved on from series 1 and Lost has evolved into something more than it ever meant to be. Ie Jack was supposed to die early on and Ben was only a bit part when it was first conceived.

Well its good both those things did not happen. Where would the show be with arguably the two most important characters.

Jack - The Leader part of Lost

Ben - The Psychological part of Lost

I have a feeling that this experiment has to do with the theory of relativity. Also, if about 30-seconds of 'real time' actually takes 30-minutes to occur - this would compound time exponentially, wouldn't it? Essentially during 30 seconds of island time, approximately 30 minutes of time is experienced off island. That is what I got from the experiment as it took about 30 seconds for the woman to count down the payload arrival when it actually arrived 30 minutes later.

Anyway, the portion of the theory of relativity that this experiment may correspond to would be Time Dilation. I can't claim to understand too much of this, so here is what Wikipedia says on the subject:

Time dilation is the phenomenon whereby an observer finds that another's clock which is physically identical to their own is ticking at a slower rate as measured by their own clock. This is often taken to mean that time has "slowed down" for the other clock, but that is only true in the context of the observer's frame of reference. Locally (i.e., from the perspective of any observer within the same frame of reference, without reference to another frame of reference), time always passes at the same rate. The time dilation phenomenon applies to any process that manifests change over time.

In Albert Einstein's theories of relativity time dilation is manifested in two circumstances:

* In special relativity, clocks that are moving with respect to an inertial system of observation are measured to be running slower. This effect is described precisely by the Lorentz transformation.

* In general relativity, clocks at lower potentials in a gravitational field — such as in proximity to a planet — are found to be running slower. This gravitational time dilation is only briefly mentioned in this article; see that article (and also gravitational red shift) for a more detailed discussion.

* In special relativity, the time dilation effect is reciprocal: as observed from the point of view of any two clocks which are in motion with respect to each other, it will be the other party's clock that is time dilated. (This presumes that the relative motion of both parties is uniform; that is, they do not accelerate with respect to one another during the course of the observations.)

* In contrast, gravitational time dilation (as treated in general relativity) is not reciprocal: an observer at the top of a tower will observe that clocks at ground level tick slower, and observers on the ground will agree. Thus gravitational time dilation is agreed upon by all observers, independent of their altitude.

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I have a feeling that this experiment has to do with the theory of relativity. Also, if about 30-seconds of 'real time' actually takes 30-minutes to occur - this would compound time exponentially, wouldn't it? Essentially during 30 seconds of island time, approximately 30 minutes of time is experienced off island. That is what I got from the experiment as it took about 30 seconds for the woman to count down the payload arrival when it actually arrived 30 minutes later.

Anyway, the portion of the theory of relativity that this experiment may correspond to would be Time Dilation. I can't claim to understand too much of this, so here is what Wikipedia says on the subject:

Time dilation is the phenomenon whereby an observer finds that another's clock which is physically identical to their own is ticking at a slower rate as measured by their own clock. This is often taken to mean that time has "slowed down" for the other clock, but that is only true in the context of the observer's frame of reference. Locally (i.e., from the perspective of any observer within the same frame of reference, without reference to another frame of reference), time always passes at the same rate. The time dilation phenomenon applies to any process that manifests change over time.

In Albert Einstein's theories of relativity time dilation is manifested in two circumstances:

* In special relativity, clocks that are moving with respect to an inertial system of observation are measured to be running slower. This effect is described precisely by the Lorentz transformation.

* In general relativity, clocks at lower potentials in a gravitational field — such as in proximity to a planet — are found to be running slower. This gravitational time dilation is only briefly mentioned in this article; see that article (and also gravitational red shift) for a more detailed discussion.

* In special relativity, the time dilation effect is reciprocal: as observed from the point of view of any two clocks which are in motion with respect to each other, it will be the other party's clock that is time dilated. (This presumes that the relative motion of both parties is uniform; that is, they do not accelerate with respect to one another during the course of the observations.)

* In contrast, gravitational time dilation (as treated in general relativity) is not reciprocal: an observer at the top of a tower will observe that clocks at ground level tick slower, and observers on the ground will agree. Thus gravitational time dilation is agreed upon by all observers, independent of their altitude.

What would be the cause for time dilation though?

The only thing that i know can have an affect on time is a black hole, but theirs obviously no black hole around (for obvious reasons). It could also be because of the power source (that we yet have an answer too, unless i am missing something) thats in the bottom of the island thats affecting time, its got a tremendous amount of power we know, because it had the power to rip Oceanic flight 815 from the sky.