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February 2nd, 2008, 03:42 PM
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He also like Jack in the bearded man FF said they had to go back to the island the island wanted them to come back they weren't supposed to leave..and Kate is telling him NO... Jack does the same thing to Hurley...I just wonder what it is that sets each of them off to the point of obsession with the Island.. Jack like I said before seems that he is on the road to the bearded man with Hurley...
So at some point does everyone who makes it off the island want to go back??? IF so WHY??
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Two big reasons stand out in my mind.
1. They were not meant to leave the island, and they are doomed on their current course. The Oceanic 6 will all be dying in the near future if they do not return.
2. Guilt over the ones left behind needing them. Charlie told Hurley "They need You" The circumstances in which they left had to have been quite dramatic and not just a casual ...... stay if you want, leave if you want scenario.
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February 3rd, 2008, 12:08 PM
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Two big reasons stand out in my mind.
1. They were not meant to leave the island, and they are doomed on their current course. The Oceanic 6 will all be dying in the near future if they do not return.
2. Guilt over the ones left behind needing them. Charlie told Hurley "They need You" The circumstances in which they left had to have been quite dramatic and not just a casual ...... stay if you want, leave if you want scenario.
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I think your right on both parts really.. I think "the island" wants them to come back like Hurley said to Jack and Jack said to Kate... And since we know Jack was about to jump off a bridge before the womans car crashed I would say the island is saying come back or die..
Totally agree with ya Frog..
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February 3rd, 2008, 03:25 PM
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Two big reasons stand out in my mind.
1. They were not meant to leave the island, and they are doomed on their current course. The Oceanic 6 will all be dying in the near future if they do not return.
2. Guilt over the ones left behind needing them. Charlie told Hurley "They need You" The circumstances in which they left had to have been quite dramatic and not just a casual ...... stay if you want, leave if you want scenario.
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I agree with you on both parts. Yes leaving the others there must of been pretty dramatic for everyone. And the reason why Hurley is sorry is:
The spoiler isn't that big of a spoiler but it is still something.
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February 10th, 2008, 06:24 PM
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I agree with Frogmeister on both points. There seems to be a curse on Oceanic 6, as if all are meant to die like Ben had warned them before. Yet members of Oceanic 6 might not be aware at this point that the course of things have taken that turn. The reason for Jack and Hurley's mixed feelings about the island's call seems rather conscience-ridden, and also about their personal fears and feelings of alienation.
I wonder about the series of events that would lead Jack to thinking like Hurley, that they need to go back. For Hurley, it was Charlie's "intervention" but what triggers Jack's urge to return is yet to be revealed.
Still, I am confused about Hurley's words when playing HORSE. So he says he wishes he left with Jack instead of staying with Locke- then how or when did Hurley leave the island? If he was to leave it anyways, what would it differ if he chose Jack the first place? Did someone switch places with Hurley so he could leave? If so who?
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