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So apparently Alex has some questions about Ben? Does Carl have the answers? Why would she even suspect that Ben was not her father?
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Well, for starters she knows that none of the women on the island have been able to carry a child to term and give birth. Since Ben likes to tell everyone that he was born there....it does not make sense. Of course, he may have told her she was the only child to survive and that her mother died during the birth. Then Sayid told her that she looked like her mother when he was tied up by the others at the barracks.
 
 
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Danielle an Alex will meet, hopefully neither one of them will be dying.
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So apparently Alex has some questions about Ben? Does Carl have the answers? Why would she even suspect that Ben was not her father?

Yeah, Carl did give a look like he might have some answers.
I had a crazy idea. Going along with the theory that Richard and the hostiles arrived on the island via the Black Rock. What if Carl was originally a hostile too. Maybe he was the cabin boy on the Black Rock and hasn't aged like Richard.
Or is that just too weird cause then Carl would have seen Alex grow up and now they are boyfriend/girlfriend......
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Wow, what a thought Folie! There is definately time troubles with this island, why would that not work. If we are going to say Richard is really really old, why couldn't Carl be as well? (What was that Vampire Movie with Kirsten Dunst, where however old you were when you were bitten is how old you remained? What about some thing like that with the original inhabitants once they crashed the Black Rock on the island. Except that BEN has aged, and Alex has aged! Hmmmm)
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Well, it could be even more specific - not that Richard and maybe Karl were survivors of the Black Rock, but that they were descendants of survivors. Maybe you have to be born on the Island to experience the (possible) extended life benefit.

So, Ben and Alex could age because they were not born or conceived there...and like Locke, Ben perhaps COULD be given the gift but he has displeased Jacob in some way and so it hasn't happened yet. He might be desperately trying to find some way to appease Jacob but have no idea what the right course of action is.

Because Locke can hear Jacob (maybe) he is more in tune, and because whatever he has done has earned the favor of the Island, he is able to walk there and with any luck is going to survive the pit - to get his ass thoroughly kicked by Jack.

Also, does anyone know why Karl looked so messed up in Greatest Hits? If Sawyer and Kate can look halfways decent now after the ordeals at Alcatraz and at the Barracks, had he gone somewhere new that we haven't seen, and did he learn something, was that why Alex asked him about her dad?
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Interesting, Lizard - I didn't even notice Carl. Could he be "messed up" because he was running so fast through the jungle and branches lashed his face? So if you are born off-island you age, but if you are born on-island you don't age. But only babies concieved off-island live; babies concieved on-island die. This is my problem - I can't reconcile these facts in my mind! AAAArrrrggghhhh! How is this working?

So, Rousseau's husband was Robert, and we presume this is Alex's dad. Who is Robert going to turn out to be? Is Robert even his real name?
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All I know is C(K)arl ran and paddled for almost six hours, he's got that superhuman strength as well. I'm dying to know more about these original inhabitants. Maybe that's why CKarl is in a bad way wth Ben, not only dating his daughter, but he knows things and will spill his guts, like he did with juliette.
 
 
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There is something in the episode I don't think anyone has discussed yet. When Ben returns to the others camp, Alex is cutting up a white bunny. Why is she doing this? Ben has an affinity for white bunnies could this be symbolic somehow? Are they going to eat it maybe? was she making a hide? or maybe, just maybe was she doing an old fashioned pregnancy test? When she went to go see Karl, he remarked " I thought you were going to bring bunny." What is going on here?
 
 
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Excellent Darnzy - What was the deal with the rabbit, and why did Carl want it? In the transcript Carl actually says, "I thought you were bringing RABBIT." Was Alex just going to sneak Carl some food since Carl was in hiding?
Good point, Cablerunner - does Carl have super strength like Ethan did?
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