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Old May 17th, 2007, 09:55 AM

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My favorite part of this episode is when Ben returned to Camp. The bug eyed bunny killer was freaking out, and all of his followers could see it. Everyone seemed more concerned about where Locke was then about his return. I found it a little freaky that Alex was hacking into the white rabbit with a knife and had blood all over her hands when he handed her the gun back. (I predict that may be the gun the ends up killing Ben)
So, why was he so freaked, that he decided to up the schedule? Telling them that Jacob said to go now. Why demand ALL of the women be taken, and any men who tried to stop them be killed? You could see from Richards face that he was mortified by the orders. Also, did you notice that the first thing Richard tried to ask Ben was "did John see Jacob"? I really wanted to see more of the reaction as Ben was losing his cool with his people. I can't wait to pick up there at the finale.
 
 
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Yea Ben is taking over Jack's position as the resident loony who needs to seriously chill lol
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well, it is a little disturbing when your personal invisible best friend doesn't want to be best friends anymore and starts hanging out with other kids.
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Does anyone here think the past may repeat itself here?
Ben killed his father, could or would Alex do the same.. I get the feeling like she is not all that close with him, and does not like what he is doing. She has been helping the Lostie's quite a bit!
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Alex has "blood on her hands" and access to a weapon (but she'll have to wait 364 days until she does it for history to repeat itself - birthday, you know lol!). And what was that with Alex asking Karl if Ben really was her dad? Is Karl privvy to information that Alex is not - Does Karl have a Dharma Library Card that he can go in and do some research in the File Room?
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Alex has "blood on her hands" and access to a weapon (but she'll have to wait 364 days until she does it for history to repeat itself - birthday, you know lol!). And what was that with Alex asking Karl if Ben really was her dad? Is Karl privvy to information that Alex is not - Does Karl have a Dharma Library Card that he can go in and do some research in the File Room?
I would assume that would depend on whom Karl is related to...maybe Richard? Maybe Tom? Maybe that security guy who's leading the attack on the lostie camp?

I am assuming that Karl came to the island from the outside world.
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Locke is having some serious effect on Ben.

I love the idea of Alex killing Ben. How priceless would that be?
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Loved the Ben flip out. Ol' bug eyes is gonna need help.
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So, why was he so freaked, that he decided to up the schedule? Telling them that Jacob said to go now. Why demand ALL of the women be taken, and any men who tried to stop them be killed? You could see from Richards face that he was mortified by the orders. Also, did you notice that the first thing Richard tried to ask Ben was "did John see Jacob"? I really wanted to see more of the reaction as Ben was losing his cool with his people. I can't wait to pick up there at the finale.
In the previous episode, Ben was warned by Mikhail that a female helicopter pilot was found by the Losties and that she also had means for communication and a crew some miles off the island. Another conversation Ben had with Richard afterwards made it clear that the tape recorder was missing- though that much was not given on-screen, I am assuming it would take less than 2 minutes for Ben to figure that Locke took it. Add last night's Jakob thing and his shooting of Locke, Ben had to but find a new way out since things have changed drastically in the last 48 hours.

Ben not only wants to keep his little island community but also his research, and not only those but also his power and authority on his 'people'. So it appears crucial that he takes action immediately and as extensively as possible- he's got no time to wait for Juliette's marking of the tents. Whatever Ben does is bound to look irrational anyways at this point, and I agree that it's mostly his fears behind his decisions, but I think he's well aware that he needs to 'score big' in the eyes of his people, if he wants to save it all, at this particular time; re-gain respect and authority while putting everything on track (the Losties, the fertility research etc). So that explains his erratic ways in this episode for me.

Looking at the history, close and far, irrational display of aggression and operations beyond territory have always helped failing leaders gain charisma and authority in the eyes of their people- especially when orchestrated in the name of the self-protection or some betterment of the other-side. Ben's story is not all different.. In fact it's like a dejavu..
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Yeah, things haven't been going so well for Ben, of late. But it is interesting that Ben wants to keep his island community hidden, and Locke doesn't want to leave the island. "The Answers" even told us that Locke doesn't want any of the Losties to get rescued. Ben and Locke both want the island to stay secret.
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