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3x20 - The Man Behind the Curtain Airdate: May 9, 2007

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Old May 11th, 2007, 06:24 AM

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Last night i have been wondering why richard asked Ben where his mother died. You see, Jack's father died off the island (and saw his father on the island), same with Ben's mother. Boone, Sharon and all the other people that died ON the island where never seen again. This kinda confirms the theory that it might be hell/heaven. The strange thing is though.. why didnt Ben's dad see his dead wife? Why didnt Sawyer saw the man he killed earlier in Australia. Why is it so selective? Why did Ben see Jakob and Locke didnt? Is Jakob dead maybe?
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Good questions, and what I took from the episode is that only select people can see 'apparitions'. I want to believe the Producers here that they are not dead, but they certainly are pushing the regular audience to believe that death is the case.
Not to go against what you said, but Boone has shown up, with considerably longer hair... in Locke's 'hallucination'. I have a problem with the stuff Locke ate to hallucinate, I tend to think it's not real, but a placebo to get your mind going in that direction, does that make sense? I mean rose had her little quiet times in season 1, and we really don't know what was going on in her head at the time.

Basically what I guess I'm trying to say is that Jaob must have an idea of who is special or not and makes a list. Jack however, must be special since he can see his Dad. But we know ben knew Jack was a surgeon and needed him for his own purposes and most likely changed the list that Jacob made.

I don't think Jacob is dead, but he may have power like Walt but stronger, and is being kept against his will, hooked up to something maybe (Help Me) and that's why he hates technology.
 
 
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Last night i have been wondering why richard asked Ben where his mother died. You see, Jack's father died off the island (and saw his father on the island), same with Ben's mother. Boone, Sharon and all the other people that died ON the island where never seen again. This kinda confirms the theory that it might be hell/heaven. The strange thing is though.. why didnt Ben's dad see his dead wife? Why didnt Sawyer saw the man he killed earlier in Australia. Why is it so selective? Why did Ben see Jakob and Locke didnt? Is Jakob dead maybe?

Well Boone came to Locke in a dream and I have a feeling Shannon is going to appear to Sayid sooner or later. It is selective, but I think its safe to say that no one is going to be entirely free from being haunted.
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Great questions..And maybe Ben's father did see his wife at some point, but if that's the case it's either a side thing the producers don't find all interesting to explore..or that they are saving it for later fb's. So far we only had a single Benjamin Linus episode, more information is bound to follow I think.

Another either/or theory more plausible is that, either Ben's father was not that well attuned with the island to have such an apparition, or that he was too drunk half to make sense of it, even if he had a few.

OR, the memory of his wife was blocked and repressed (something leading to his hate for Ben and abuse of alcohol) that he wouldn't be able to 'call' it. OR, Ben's mother was upset with guilt projections of her husband onto her son (Ben), that no connection was made between the father and the dead mother. Though it'd be more fitting to see her as some angry ghost chasing her husband for tormenting Ben
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