Remember, Ben said "God can't see us here" . if the island is not supposed to exist, but is an anamoly, a wierd effect of having time and Space tear up, then it may not be bound by laws that govern the rest of existence...

heck, I'm not sure, but you two are right, we are on to something!

This is really getting interesting. We are really opening up our imaginations! This is why I love this show so much, where else can we get into such intricate conversations and bounce back ideas. Awesome! Can't wait for tonight.

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An anomaly can be a perfect explanation for the birth of this island! However, I am so effectuated with Aristotle’s “unmovable mover” theory that I am trying to come up with answers that can still fall under his theory. You are thinking outside the box where the island is not apart of our universe which makes sense but the island will always be a descendent of the creator. Think of if like an umbrella corporation. In the end it will always have laws bound by its creator, whether you put the anomaly on top of the universe or below but never be on top of the creator. Now you can say each branches have different laws as far as physics goes but in the end it still would be a descendent from Mr. Unmovable. Now her is another question, if we come from Universe A and some how teleport to Universe B will we be able to change laws or is our brain always shackled to the law in which it came from? For example we are taught time travel is impossible in Universe A but in Universe B it is but since are brain created through the laws of Universe A can will teleport? Are we truly a product of our environment? Nature Vs. nurture comes into play!

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Copin your notion of Universe A & B is the question I had concerning why women were unable to carry their pregnancies to term if concieved on the island. (Almost like the Rh factor in pregnancies) If the mother and father are from Universe A (and therefore the parents' bodies suscribe to Universe A's laws of nature), but the baby was concieved in Universe B (and therefore the baby's body suscribes to the laws of Universe B), is that why there is a problem. Since the mothers don't die immediately upon fertilization of the egg, does that mean that Universe A & B have some laws in common (which sustains the pregnancy through the first trimester), but as the baby grows the differences in the laws of the Universi (that's my funny plural form of universe - ) begin to wreak havoc on the both the mother and the baby's bodies causing them BOTH to die? [Think of your umbrella again - at first both Universi start out at the center, but then as time moves on the mother and baby moved farther down their respective universe branches] And what about a hybrid? An island mother and and real world father (or vice versa) - or does it matter - the laws of nature of each universe are exerting too much force, they are just too great to hold any kind of blended universe life together?
What about jumping universi - either you have to travel back up your respective branch until you get to the center of the umbrella and then you can proceed down a different spoke of the umbrella, or, if the umbrella is closed and the spokes (or branches) are touching, can you more easily jump at those points? Is this what is happening to Desmond?)

It's been awhile since I've read Aristotle - but from what I can remember I think the unmovable mover does apply... (I will definately go re-read Aristotle's theory - ugh! more school work!!!)

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Well Copin, I don't think the island is not part of the multiverse, but a product of either instability or a factor that must be, like and equal sign in an equation. If you stretch a piece of Saran wrap far enough, there will be holes in it, and I think that's how the island came to be, not that it's a piece of plastic, but I'm sure you catch my drift. Actually, i saw a picture one time, it may be a sybol for a paint product, but that's how I see the island.. its three circles, one red, one yellow and one blue, and where the meet, little slices of the cirlce, there is a diferent color, which is made up of all three.. in fact, that is how my stance is going to be concerning the island, an overlapping of the 3 universes, a part of each, containing the power of all three.

You are right though, I love this show and I think it may be the best show ever created because of a forum like this. I also like how we all have our different opinions and views and everyone is open if not totally accepting... happy viewing tonight!

CableRunner *double negative alert*: I don't think the island is not part of the multiverse. So you think the island is part of the multiverse, right? Couldn't your Saran Wrap analogy apply to the Umbrella Theory - the nylon of the umbrella between the timelines (which are the spokes of the umbrella) be pulled too tightly in some abberation and a hole is created and that hole in the umbrella, that void in the space, is where the island was created, and as the hole grows larger; the island grows larger too - filling the void. Or am I way off?

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Actually, i shoul have deleted my saran wrap idea, I really think it's the circle part, in fact, it is a symbol for a spray paint company, Krylon maybe. And yes, I think i's part of the multiverse, but like a middle place, a train station hub where all the tracks meet. hmmm, these analogies are getting better...

I know the color-wheel picture you're talking of. Which works because no matter how many more color circles you add (timelines?) you still have that center hub. Whether a few timelines or many - there is still that center black dot (island). Right? btw - I know this picture isn't the one you were thinking of.

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That's the idea, I'll get the correct picture for everyone, I think it may clear up some crap... IMHO