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Old May 3rd, 2007, 12:05 PM

Default What is Ben up to?

The question that is driving me crazy is trying to figure out what Ben's game is. I think him and the Others are conning Locke into thinking that they believe he is special. All of them looking at him like he is Brad Pitt or something. And they've been 'waiting for him'. And does John believe he is like C3PO and the Others are his worshipping Ewoks or is he finally going to wise up and not be so gullible? And why would Ben so freely tell Locke about his plans with Juliet, taking pregnant women etc?! Oh, and Ben walking. I don't believe he ever lost the ability. I think it is all a con. It was funny when he told John 'magic box is a metaphor John' or w/e he said. Like he was tired of John saying 'magic box' so sarcastically. But Ben was definitely EVIL in this episode.
 
 
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Or maybe Locke IS important to the others and Ben is downright jealous of him. Like that guy said who came to talk to locke in private(sorry can't remember his name) and said that Ben was trying to make him look foolish in front of all the others.
 
 
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yea maybe the others need a new leader becuas ben i getting old
however ben and locke are about the same age
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yea maybe the others need a new leader becuas ben i getting old
however ben and locke are about the same age
Just what I was thinking, a new leader. and who knows maybe the others don't care about age.
 
 
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yea maybe the others need a new leader becuas ben i getting old
however ben and locke are about the same age
Or, as I mentioned in another post...if Roger Linus and Ben Linus were brothers, and both Dharma Work Men, then Ben could be an awful lot older than he appears. What if your age suddenly catches up with you after a length of time on the Island? (or, if time is running at different speed on the Island, when you leave it suddenly catches up with you, hence why no one tends to leave).

All I'm getting at is that maybe Ben is really, really old in actual fact.
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I must be slipping. I don't know when or how roger linus was introduced to the story can some one clarify?
 
 
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This is the second time that a Lostie was approached by an Other and told that people didn't like the way Ben was doing things. In this case, Richard was just a little more subtle than Juliette. However, this could have been the way they wanted Lockes dad to die all along. It would fit with the whole manipulation thing and how they manage to justify what they do as long as they con someone else into doing it for them. Does Ben really see Locke as competition and doesn't want him around? Or is this exactly what he wanted? At this point I think it's a toss up.
 
 
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Spoiler for This will tell you that if rogar is rogar linus. I PUT A spolier becuase it could be a big thing:
Episode S3E20 - The Man Behind the Curtain
Episode Centric: Ben/Dharma-centric (The DeGroots)
Air Date: 9th May 2007

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The Man Behind the Curtain Ben begrudgingly begins to introduce Locke to the secrets of the island, beginning with the mysterious Jacob. Meanwhile, Juliet's secret goes public

Guest List
Guest starring are M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly/Tom, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, Sterling Beaumon as young Ben, Jon Gries as Roger Linus, Carrie Preston as Emily, Doug Hutchison as Horace, Samantha Mathis as Olivia and Madeline Carroll as Annie.

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Looks like eps. #320 is 'hippie-centric' with a flashback to the '70's. Features Horace, a scientist/mathematician and Olivia an attractive elementary school teacher. Both embody a 'hippie' idealism. Olivia may show up later in other eps.
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thanks fate, I thought maybe I had missed something in a previous episode.
 
 
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its ok......
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