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There is no way the airliner could have hit the water and remained intact. When aircraft touches down on landing, they're travelling, roughly, at ninety to a hundred-twenty-five miles per hour.

Bellying in onto water would have torn that plane apart.
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So you are saying you can manufacture a 777 boeing in a couple of days?

It would take weeks just to receive the amount of metal and electronic parts it takes to build an aircraft. Unless you can buy a 777 boeing on Ebay this is impossible. Sorry

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No you couldn't manufacture a 777 in a couple of days but you could buy one. I know a person who buys plane parts as well as planes, and it's really not that difficult. expensive maybe, but not difficult.bottom line if all that is recoverd is video footage, then it wouldn't be that hard to fake. The hoax wouldn't even have to take place at the bottom of the ocean, any dark, cloudy water would do. for example, in a body of water such as loch ness even fifty feet below there is hardly any ambient light. my point is it wouldn't be hard to fake deep sea footage with enough money and determination.
 
 
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On the plane issue: the producers of Lost went to a used plane lot and bought the plane used on the show. So if they can buy an old plane and stage a crash scene on a beach that looks believable, why can't a super powerful shady organization have an old plane at their disposal and sink it deep deep deep into the ocean?

And you can't eject from a helicopter, that would send you up into the blades and they move around quite fast I am told You jump down from the chopper, like Ashton Kutcher in 'The Guardian'. It makes more sense to me that she jumped from high up (considering her gear) from a plane and steered herself to the island.

When Michael was leaving the island he was given specific coordinates or directions or whatever. Like you can only get to/leave or SEE the island from a certain angle, like a rainbow


Really because I thought they duplicated the fuselage of the plane not an entire 777 boeing commercial air craft. Now I am not saying you can’t duplicate an aircraft, what I am saying is you can’t stage a crash that magnitude with all the components it would take to pass through all the investigation with out a trace in 90 days! Sorry it just can’t be done unless the U.S government is involved. (Conspiracy theory lol)

Ummm in the Guardian Ashton’s chopper wasn’t falling while he jumped out and he also wasn’t wearing a parachute lol Naomi was and some how she avoided the blades
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A person? or a person who works for a company that buys planes? A 777 boeing is about 200 mill to buy. Please introduce me to your friend if he or she has this type of money. I need to be around people with that type of money in my life LOL
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Video footage approved by are beloved government?lol no not that simple unless they are involved
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You could jump from a helicopter and wait to open your parachute! If the helicopter isn't falling, it is malfunctioning, point it in a direction, jump out, helicopter keeps going, open your parachute when it is safe... No? Like I said, I think she jumped out of a plane. And why the US government? Was it a US based airline? And doesn't the government farm out that kind of work to private companies? Companies who specialize in deep sea plane crash filming? A crash scene for a missing plane could totally be faked and why would any government question that a plane found in the same area that it disappeared from, that looks like the plane, that has the planes same number or logo or whatever on it, that has dead bodies and no survivors, why would they not accept that as truth?
 
 
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yes a company, but he happens to be the owner of the company. But don't get your hopes up I've known him for years and I haven't seen a dime
o.k. so you think staging this wreck is impossible, but you think finding an airplane that has lost total contact and changed course in the middle of the biggest body of water on the planet is more likely? the odds are better that I could win the lottery, buy a 777, and stage the wreck myself than somebody being able to find a plane 4 miles down in the pacific ocean, with no coordinates to start the search
 
 
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The Oceanic 815 crash took place 3 years ago, not 90 days ago. Time passes differently on the island than it does off the island. Naomi's sat phone is an Apple iPhone that is slated to be released in June 2007. The Lost Experience took place real time (with the help of shows like the Jimmy Kimmel show etc...). Plus, The Life Extension Project is one of the current active projects being undertaken by The Hanso Foundation. Its ultimate goal is to extend the lifespan of humans so they can lead fuller lives. The project has claimed to have successfully extended the life of their prize Orangutan, Joop. And I believe that Alvar Hanso was also undergoing these "treatments" - his age is unknown, but it has been suggested that he is around 120 years old. I think these are clues to show us that time is passing slower or even stopped on the island.
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The Oceanic 815 crash took place 3 years ago, not 90 days ago. Time passes differently on the island than it does off the island. Naomi's sat phone is an Apple iPhone that is slated to be released in June 2007. The Lost Experience took place real time (with the help of shows like the Jimmy Kimmel show etc...). Plus, The Life Extension Project is one of the current active projects being undertaken by The Hanso Foundation. Its ultimate goal is to extend the lifespan of humans so they can lead fuller lives. The project has claimed to have successfully extended the life of their prize Orangutan, Joop. And I believe that Alvar Hanso was also undergoing these "treatments" - his age is unknown, but it has been suggested that he is around 120 years old. I think these are clues to show us that time is passing slower or even stopped on the island.
Sorry, but I don't think that's right. The machine in the Swan Station was years ahead of its time--technology-wise--for the 1980s. Remember how secret agents had all that sophisticated gear--miniaturized electronics--years before it was commercially available?

I think that was the case with the Hanso Foundation and the Dharma Initiative.

It does not have to follow that time is flowing at different speeds.

Hanso made his fortune developing weapon systems. That involves cutting-edge technology. Somewhere along the way, the Dharma facilities on the island quit being updated (some of them, like the Flame Station, had digital and satellite communications).

I think several competing factions are at work inside the Dharma Initiative. Each one is using some or most of the Hanso alliance of companies to aid and abet the side they want to win. Each side (and there could be three or four, for all we know) have different goals than the ones Alvar Hanso set forth when the Dharma Initiative was first started.

Right now, the people supporting Ben's group are the ones who are winning.

At least, that is what I think might be going on.

A project started with the highest of hope and goals and then something happened, the project was hijacked, and things went terribly, terribly wrong.

Never underestimate Man's greed for power. It could be as simple as that. Everything else springs from there. The one thing Alvar Hanso might not have thought of when he tried to create his version of Utopia on the island.
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But you miss my point - The sat phone is cutting edge technology for the year 2007(it's not even going to be released to the public until June) in which the Hanso Foundation is operating according to the Lost Experience 2006 (the Lost Island Show crash time was 2004 with only 90 passing - how do you justify that?). Just because time moves slower on the island doesn't mean that equipment from the real world present time can't be brought to the island. There are certain things within this story that can't be disregarded and one of the things is the Dharma Initiative was working on was a longevity program. Remember the strange pelvic x-ray that Richard Alpert showed Juliet and the age discrepancy there. Consider how quickly a body heals - that is a time discrepancy. Desmond himself has moved through time, affected time even.
Alvar Hanso was held captive by Thomas Mittelwerk, who then took over Hanso's seat on the Widmore Board of Directors. We know Paik Heavy Industries (which could probably construct a plane) built the ship for the Wellness Project that was harvesting organs in Gambia (which was a front to do virus research studies) Also, in Sun's D.O.C. episode the only Korean that wasn't translated was when Mr. Paik was in his office, right before Sun comes in and asks for the money, and there was discussion about shipping bills. Let's think bigger picture than "who can make a plane in just 90 days." This could have, and probably was, in the works for much longer. The powers that be would not have cut it so close - there were planes to make and bodies to plant, governmental (more than just any one government) agencies to skirt, and, possibly specific people to get on that plane.
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