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Ben told Juliet that Jacob would make her sister's cancer go away. So why didn't Jacob fix Ben? And for that matter why doesn't Jacob help the women on the island?
 
 
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I think Ben even said specifically that "Jacob said he would handle it himself" or something like that. Are Jacob and Benjamin Linus brothers?

And speaking of fix... did anyone notice that that is how Juliet described (to Jack of all people) what she could do for Claire?
She said," I can fix this Jack" Hmmmm....
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I do not believe Ben or Jacob for that matter are all powerful. I think Ben is Jacobs right hand on the island. But Jacob has the freedom to make things happen in the outside world. I personally think Jacob arranged for the plane with the spinal surgeon to conveniently crash within a few days of Ben's diagnosis. Just as when the bus ran over Juliet's ex. Nothing is coincidence, not the crash and not the passengers.
 
 
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Evidently the Others believe Jacob to be god-like. Juliet's expression changed dramatically at the mention of him. Ben asked her 'Or do you doubt Jacob?' or something like that.
 
 
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I agree Frog...

I don't think that Jacob could fix the things on the island because he didn't know how too... Ben had a tumor not cancer..

I also think that everything that they do is only to serve their own purpose.. They had to keep Juliette there and working so that is why they fixed her sister... If her cancer did ever come back.. Ben could have made up false medical reports to make Juliette think that the cancer had come back and that Rachel would die before she ever got to her to make the deal with her to keep her on the island...
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I think Ben even said specifically that "Jacob said he would handle it himself" or something like that. Are Jacob and Benjamin Linus brothers?

And speaking of fix... did anyone notice that that is how Juliet described (to Jack of all people) what she could do for Claire?
She said," I can fix this Jack" Hmmmm....
I took it that Juliet said she could fix the problem with Claire, because she had caused it to some degree with her serum injections. Kind of like, I broke it, so I know how to fix it. I think Jacob did fix Ben....by sending him a spinal surgeon...special delivery. Interesting thought about them possibly being brothers. It seems as though Jacob cannot come to the island and Ben cannot leave it....but they work together to make things happen.
 
 
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I personally think Jacob arranged for the plane with the spinal surgeon to conveniently crash within a few days of Ben's diagnosis. Just as when the bus ran over Juliet's ex. Nothing is coincidence, not the crash and not the passengers.
So was the pilot told to crash it, and before he could spill the secret, the monster ate him?
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So was the pilot told to crash it, and before he could spill the secret, the monster ate him?
I think that possibly the pilot was paid to take the plane off course and fly in the vicinity of the island. He did not know there was going to be a crash. However, I think that Jacob knew the exact time of the hatch incident in which Desmond did not enter the numbers immediately. (just as the old lady knew Des was destined to turn the key at some point) He knew that the electro magnetic incident would pull that plane down.
That is why the pilot told them, "they will be looking for us in the wrong place" because they were completely off course (1000 miles off!). I always wondered how they got that far off course. But now I believe it was intentional. Then the pilot was conveniently killed before he could spill anymore beans.
 
 
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Are Jacob and Benjamin Linus brothers?
I think Jacob is more likely to be Ben's father. Reason being that in the Old Testament, Jacob (later known as Israel or "struggled with God") had many sons, one of whom was named Benjamin. Interestingly, Benjamin's mother, Rachael, died giving birth to him.


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I think Ben is Jacobs right hand on the island.
Funnily enough, Benjamin means "son of my right hand."


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I personally think Jacob arranged for the plane with the spinal surgeon to conveniently crash within a few days of Ben's diagnosis.
Lucky thing that the spinal surgeon didn't happen to get killed in the crash, eh?
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