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Where did you gather that John Locke found out the sub he blew up was a fake?

Did anyone catch Ethan saying to Juliette while he was unstrapping her in the sub that "Sorry we had to strap you in, but the last FLIGHT is always alittle bumpy." Are submarine voyages refered to as flights?

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Originally Posted by LostRMyEyes

IMHO I think the sub is just another manipulation tool. We never seen it in action and if that is the only way off the island then Michael and Walt never made it in the boat. I believe there is still other ways to get off the island.

I'm pretty sure your paranoya is running away with you. The sub clearly is not a prop, but a working submarine, no question. No-one ever said the sub was the only way off the island, probably just a bit easier for the others to go back and forth as it is submerged so won't draw any attention. They could use boats if they wanted.

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Originally Posted by CableRunner

How could a sub be an intense journey anyway, unless you have crippling claustophobia.

Given that the island is impossible to find, it's safe to assume there's some type of "portal" (I know this sounds a bit crazy) or leg of the journey where you are passing from the outside world to the island. Given that it's a special place, it's not unreasonable to assume the journey there isn't exactly a normal journey.

Clevergirl - I checked out the transcripts and it says "last LEG of the..." Now that's not to say that maybe he did say something different, but the transcript says that.

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Originally Posted by Integrated

Given that the island is impossible to find, it's safe to assume there's some type of "portal" (I know this sounds a bit crazy) or leg of the journey where you are passing from the outside world to the island. Given that it's a special place, it's not unreasonable to assume the journey there isn't exactly a normal journey.

Yeah after hearing Ethan describe the sub journey I thought something like this. ^^

Also when thinking about Flight 815's mid-air breakup. Maybe they passed through something too. Even Desmonds ship wreak may have been more than just bad weather.
Passing through what ever barrier they have too may just be more survivable under water in a sub.

I like the prop idea. Its more feasible they flew her in on a plane that lands in the water and put her in the Parked Sub. she would have been none the wiser.

Also. about LOCKE knowing... He did walk back from the Sub all wet. which ment he went into the water. He probable saw it was a prop and dove in to check that its propellars didnt exist. When he sees it isnt real he blows it up anyway, to start some civil unrest among Henry's people. That way he is still in control of whats going on. As opposed to Jack finding out it was a fake. IF Jack found out it was a fake then there is no way that he would trust Juliet and bring her back to the camp like Henry wants.

I think the sub being a fake just causes too many complications.
If it were a fake......
What was really going to happen to Jack and Juliet?

Could Ben be so sure Locke wouldn't see that it was fake? or If Locke did see it was fake could Ben leave it to chance that Locke would blow it anyway?

How could Ben be sure that Locke wouldn't tell Jack it was fake?

If it is a fake, how many others know it? Ethan, Richard, two unknown crew members. How do you ensure that the secret is kept in a community?

Ben is supposed to be a master at manipulation. Ben wanted Locke to destroy the sub and force Jack and Juliet to stay on the island without breaking his word to them. A fake sub just leaves to many chances that Ben would be caught in his deception. and con men don't take chances.

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