At the start of the episode, when the voice says, "Previously, on Lost," they show the explosion from a different angle. The flash occurs at the end of the dock. The submarine is no longer moored along the left side of the dock.

Then, in the preview for next week, you see some of the Others standing atop a submarine's conning tower.

I think Locke submerged the sub and gave Ben a way out concerning Jack and Juliet's departure. He "outgamed" Ben by thinking up a way to remove the sub from play without destroying it like Ben obviously wanted him to do.

This makes me wonder if Locke's switching sides (joining the Others) might be another game strategy move. He "joins" to gather more information on the Others and to undermine them from within.

That would be very, very clever. Almost Ben-like, in fact.

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"Whoa!" she said. "Cry 'Havoc!' And let loose the dogs of war!"
And, like Banquo's ghost, they just won't go away.

I wouldn't give Locke that much credit. I think he has selfish intentions and he's so stuck on feeling special and a part of something important on the island. I think that Ben can manipulate Locke, more than the other way around. Ben actually reminds me of Locke's father in a way, he won't be able to overcome him and he will continue to obsess over his need for control.

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That scene is to show Juliets arrival 3 1/2 yrs ago.

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Sorry...I think my Kharma just ran over your Dogma...

Yeah, I'm with Unhatched on this one. It's a Juliet-centric epi and it picks up right where her last one left off so, I think it shows the Galaga bringing her to the island.

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`Dear, dear! How queer everything is to-day! And yesterday things went on just as usual. I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I? Ah, that's the great puzzle!'

-- Alice, from “Alice’s Adventure’s in Wonderland”

But that tactic has been used before. Ana Lucia pretended to be a captive to find out who Sawyer, Jin, and Michael really were. Ben pretended to be Henry Gale. Same with Ethan.

I was just putting forth the idea of: If Locke is playing this like a war game, then one side sending in a fake "defector" is one form of scouting out the enemy's defenses (and a dangerous one, too). Plus, it would fit because the Others know that Locke has a tendancy to act as a rogue agent (Ben, at least, thinks that Locke can be turned).

And if I were Locke, every time Ben talked to me, I would think, "Once burned, twice shy."

Remember that Locke was devious enough to hide all that money from his father's lockbox in a different bag in case the drug guys followed him--which they did.

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"Whoa!" she said. "Cry 'Havoc!' And let loose the dogs of war!"
And, like Banquo's ghost, they just won't go away.

But you have to remember Ana Lucia was doing that with Michael and Sawyer who wouldn't really be aware of it. Someone like Ben is the master of manipulation, it would take a lot to manipulate him. The only one that would really have a chance would be someone like Juliet, who knows him well enough to get in his head or his daughter...

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Because all we really need to survive is one person who truly loves us. And you have her.

Interesting that you mention Ana-Lucia and Locke in the same post Charlie. When Ana-Lucia had herself thrown into the pit to do recon on Jin, Michael, and Sawyer, after she took Sawyer's gun she shouted, "Coming out!" at which point Mr. Eko lifted her out of the pit. John, after he was done talking to Kate in the game room, says the exact same thing "coming out!" when leaving the game room.

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`Dear, dear! How queer everything is to-day! And yesterday things went on just as usual. I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I? Ah, that's the great puzzle!'

-- Alice, from “Alice’s Adventure’s in Wonderland”

I wrote something in the same lines before I read that. do I get any points?
I watched season 2 disk 5 last night ha sorry. when Locke gets stuck/ crushed in the hatch with henry gale. Ben definetly resembled lockes father some how. There was this one part when locke was freaking out when he thought henry left him. he was about to cry the good ol' henry came back and gave him a hug, while he was just toying with his emotions. Ben knows lockes past and Locke is such a sucker.

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I would like to think that Locke realized Ben wanted him to blow up the sub so he didn't blow it up and one day Locke will be out joy riding in the sub and Ben will come walking by and see him and be stunned and Locke will smile and wave at him, maybe with an orange peel in this mouth...but no. I think the sub is fubar.

You shoulda put that as a spoiler, I certainly do NOT want to have things given away in the preview.