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Johnathan "John" Locke is one of the middle section survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. His paralysis was immediately healed upon crashing on the Island, which has ultimately led him to believe he has some sort of special connection to the Island. He is sometimes shown in antithesis to Benjamin Linus, sharing several traits including the ability to commune with Jacob. Seen as antithetical to Jack Shephard, he and Jack are philosophical opposites and used to share leadership among the survivors, but now seems to be creating his own agenda for his actions on the Island and has broken off from the survivors.
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Old March 15th, 2007, 02:38 PM

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Yes!! That and the fact that he has lied so many times for his own good... When the plane crashed and Boone died because he lied about what happened.. Or the fact he did lead everyone to believe he was hunting so he could dig out the hatch... He care about himself and no one else and no price is too high to pay for any of his fellow losties
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I have a question. maybe I am getting too technical here but How did locke get the c4? It was downstairs and I never saw him or heard mention of him going down there. Thoughts anyone?
 
 
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Well in the beginning of the show Locke says if you had told me there was C4, then he would have been more careful or something like that... I don't know how he got it but he knew about it.. He said all he did was play the silly chess game again to Sayid and Kate when he got out of the flame.. I think he was lying about playing the chess game again.. Why play again? He would not have... Not after getting to the screen with the options.. So I think he did a little looking around for himself and even possibly blew the flame up on purpose to keep the communications down... Sayid could possibly have fixed a lot of the problems with the flame... Remember how he fixed the computer in the swan when they first got into it??
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So you're saying Locke knowingly blew up the Flame to keep communications down.
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Well in the beginning of the show Locke says if you had told me there was C4, then he would have been more careful or something like that... I don't know how he got it but he knew about it.. He said all he did was play the silly chess game again to Sayid and Kate when he got out of the flame.. I think he was lying about playing the chess game again.. Why play again? He would not have... Not after getting to the screen with the options.. So I think he did a little looking around for himself and even possibly blew the flame up on purpose to keep the communications down... Sayid could possibly have fixed a lot of the problems with the flame... Remember how he fixed the computer in the swan when they first got into it??
I can agree with a lot you said, especially ruining communications.
 
 
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So you're saying Locke knowingly blew up the Flame to keep communications down.
All I am saying is that it should be a concideration!
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So you're saying Locke knowingly blew up the Flame to keep communications down.
It wouldn't be the first time he intentionally destroyed a form of communication.
 
 
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It wouldn't be the first time he intentionally destroyed a form of communication.
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So I think he did a little looking around for himself and even possibly blew the flame up on purpose to keep the communications down... Sayid could possibly have fixed a lot of the problems with the flame... Remember how he fixed the computer in the swan when they first got into it??
I think you guys are giving Locke too much credit. He has proven to be very capable in certain things but he's also proven to be very naive and dimwitted.

While he's able to track people down and figure out how to survive with limited resources, he's very gullible and susceptible to being deceived and he is more confused about what's going on than most of the other people on the island.

Ben had a field day with Locke because he knew Locke wanted to "believe". Ben seemed to enjoy toying with Locke time and time again. I believe the reason why they Locke isn't on the list is because he is useless to them rather than because he's flawed.

Locke is like a kid in an amusement park. He is curious about all the attractions and wanders around aimlessly. He has no plan and he's too dumb to realize that messing up other people's plans will be detrimental to everyone, including himself.
 
 
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I have a question. maybe I am getting too technical here but How did locke get the c4? It was downstairs and I never saw him or heard mention of him going down there. Thoughts anyone?
That's a very valid question, if Kate and Sayid went through the hidden door under the rug to get into the basement how would Locke have gotten down there without anyone seeing him? Is there maybe 2 enterances to the basement? (like a secret door in the computer room?) If he went exploring after he entered 77 into the computer and then found the C4, wouldn't the removal of one of the links on the chain of C4 disable the entire string? (kinda like christmas lights?)
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