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3x10 - Tricia Tanaka is Dead Airdate: February 28, 2007

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the little logo does look swan-ish to me. i'd need dramamine to drive in a car on all those switchbacks - ugh!
The switchbacks would be used in serious inclines or declines. So this hatch must be high up the mountain centr of the island. and/or over a mountain rigde and then down into a thier secluded crater like area.

So we are on the right trail folks!!!
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Okay, what do you guys think about this... following what Benmer said about being in the mountains... the song that was playing in the VWbus (Shambala) in (according to wikipedia) Tibetan Buddhist tradition is a mystical kingdon somewhere beyond the snowpeaks of the Himalayas... and shambhala is a sanskrit term meaning "place of peace/tranquility/happiness." Shambhala is believed to be a society where all the inhabitants are enlightened, actually a Buddhist "pure land"... the idea of shambhala is said to have an "outer", inner" and "alternative" meaning" Outer meaning understands Shambhala to exist as a physical place,.....the inner represents in terms of one's own body and mind, and the alternative the meditation practice.
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great teamwork Steph..

i an into Tibetan practices and stuff myself... way to run with it.
 
 
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Nope. Sayid, Locke, Kate, and Danielle are already on their way to the Flame, presumably because Danielle "knows the Island" and because the map is still sitting in the back of the hippie van.

I do think it will come into play after they come back from this latest adventure/rescue operation, when they have found out that the Others are on the other side of the Island in their commune. Someone near Sawyer mentions there must be a way to get to the other side without a boat, and he goes "hold on a sec there, Freckles..."
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I thought that Kate was just going to find Danielle... I didn't think that she was going to rescue jack yet... Lock and Sayid just followed her then Danielle came out shooting
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Wait a sec.... are we saying the Flame station and where the Others live are one and the same (the crater village) - OR - are we saying the Flame station and the house where Patchy lives (with the cows) are one and the same -OR - are we saying the Flame station, Crater Town, Patchy Place are one and the same?(i'm thinking sawyer's map was to the Other's crater town - the one featured in the first epi of this season)
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IM thinking flame and patchy go hand in hand. I am not saying anything about his sexual preference... but you never know what 1D vision and a bunch of others and a smoke monster does to you
 
 
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I think I'll throw in something from left field. Remember the diagram painted on the blast door of the Hatch? The one with the question mark in the center? If the Hatch was at the bottom of the map and North was up, then the station in the center, which was represented by a question mark, would be up to the north, in the mountains.

And remember Eko's vision where he was supposed to ask Locke to take him to the question mark? At the time, I thought that meant the central station on the Hatch diagram, but Locke assumed that Eko meant the Pearl Station (the one where Eko ended up getting killed).

Also, I took the roadmap to be a kind of foreshadowing device to remind the viewers that the Dharma Project appeared to have started out as a large, grand, enterprise. Here they are, maybe building monuments, roads, zoos on the other island, the housing project where the book club was meeting, but then something happened, the construction was stopped, the roads stopped being maintained, and everything was left to fall apart, rust, and decay. Perhaps that bit was put in there to get us wondering again about what happened to stop the Dharma Initiative.

And now, according to the preview, they're going to find the station with the computers and maybe communicate with the mainland. Maybe a third faction (with the guy with the eye patch) controls this communications station. Perhaps the Dharma Initiative degenerated into a bunch of warring factions after the "incident." A kind of mutiny, which left Hanso's group only controlling the Swan Station (Hatch), and air-dropping supplies to the Swan Station to keep it going.

You might also note the comments of the other losties about the supplies running low. That could also be a bit of foreshadowing.

Just something to think about (if you want to think about Lost in terms of a book or novel).

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I agree- this has to be the flame station they journey to next week.
 
 
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Let me through this at you. The map that Sawyer found is a topographical map, as shown by all of the rounded fainter linesthat cover the whole map. Near the center of the map where the faint lines broaden, there is a "c" circled. I believe this stands for "crater." The braodening of the lines here would represent a flatening out of the landscape. This flat area is surrounded by narrower lines, meaning shorter distances between large elevation changes. Meaning that the "c" is surrounded by mountains. Knowing what we've seen in the season 3 premire that "Othertown" is in a crater, that is where the map leads to.
Also remember those wavy lines on the blast door map, that we all thought were either rivers or underground tunnels? Could that be what we are seeing here in Sawyer's map. These lines are much bolder than the topography lines, so it could be emphisising the road or actually be underground.
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