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3x05 - The Cost of Living Airdate: November 1, 2006

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There is some true and obvious discord between her and Ben that occurs when they are alone that leads me to believe that she really does want him dead. The part that I don't believe is her offering Jack protection once Ben is dead. I think she doesn't really care all that much, and will discard Jack dead or alive after he has carried out her plan.
 
 
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What I immediatley thought of when Ben and Juliet were talking on the beach, was that Ben was upset that they showed the X-Rays too soon...that it threw a monkey wrench into their plans. I think that Ben knows about the video, and his "confession" to Jack about the plans they had to break him was a way of getting Jack to buy in to what they're selling. I'm still not sure that the whole tumor thing is real...and the video makes me think that even more. It just seems like it's a test to see what Jack will do.
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Everything these people do seems to be a test, what a bunch of wackos! Only time will tell if the tests are to good ends, or bad...

I suspect the latter.
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Hey everyone very first message here so I hope I do all right.
One of the recent recurring themes of the show being 'free will' (or the illusion of it, as I'd like to call), I think Juliet's tape could well be part of the act she arranged with Ben, to get Jack want to perform the surgery. Having found out about Juliet's murder plan (I don't like her a bit), Jack would be all the more willing to become the 'life-saving hero' he is (no offense Jack-lovers) , do the operation in the hope of finding a bargain for Kate and Sawyer out of it (of course he would refuse to be the killing hand) and alas , end up doing it 'at his owned (fooled) will.
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Okay I'm going to go against everyone else. I bet I'm going to look like a fool when I'm totaly wrong but, I think Juliette is upest and tierd of the B.S. that Ben has created. She said there are no leaders. That may be how they started out but, Ben has taken a position of power. She is also a doctor. A Vet yes but, she shares that with Jack. We don't know enough about what happened to the Other's to know for sure what she is being motivated by. There is a part of me that believes Juliette is trying to make changes to what she sees as a fawed and dangerous situation. The first time we see her she looks sad and appears to be working herself into a good mood. Even the music she's listening to "Down town." said she's unhappy. I think she will end up being an a good person. I hope I don't make a total idiot of myself.
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what if Ben and Juliet decided to take a bet on this 'free-will' thing, which they obviously don't agree on, as it was made clear in the season's first episode ("I guess I'm out of the book club"). Looks to me just as plausible that each took the role/position of the other (Ben, acting as if he wants Jack's free will to operate and remember Juliet appeared optimistic of free will in "Tale of Two Cities" while Juliet acting as a manipulative force on Jack's decision, which would be a cunning move we'd expect more from Ben by now) This sort of betting in reverse position to keep it 'fair' and entertaining is quite an old and often visited theme of classical literature and story-telling (1001 arabian nights etc). It also explains the rivalry between Ben and Juliet as well. What do you say?
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So does anyone believe Juliet and her tape? She's been the nicest to Jack so far, and seems the most trustworthy, and her and Ben definitely have some issues, but was she telling the truth?
Been the nicest to Jack so far? By lying and taunting him behind a glass wall? Beleive me, Jack would make a move for the door if he had a clue how to get out. Shes a liar and unloyal. and if not one, then definitley the other. If Henry Gale Can't trust her, then why would jack. Totally wack. I think its misdirection.... they wil need jack fomr something completley different.

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I think that Juliet wants Jack to trust her, but only because she can use Jack against Ben. Ben's life is in Jack's hands, so if Juliet controls Jack she controls Ben. Juliet said that she would protect him if he fails in his surgery, protection from the angry others.
I think Jedi Toad has a crush....

I think the protection she offeres him will be a lil more of the same.... you know... locked in a cell. fed hamburgers with poison... the life...

its a good thought... she is in control of the book club and they are a powerful force in the Othersville... >>>The tape is SHADY<<<

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I am still of the mind that Juliet and Ben are working together as a team to break Jack down. They are working quite effectively to get him to lean on Juliet to some degree and trust her. Why should he believe her when she says Ben is a liar or that he is dangerous? I think she is telling him what he already believes in order to form common ground with him. I agree that she is quite dangerous, and from Sawyers observation would have killed Kate without blinking....that cannot be good.
Total team. Henry even brought up the Juliet looks like your ex BS... he wants jack to start wanting Juliet! As aweful as that sounds... Kate is gonna whomp her in the face soon i think... ( by soon i mean in feb!)

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There is some true and obvious discord between her and Ben that occurs when they are alone that leads me to believe that she really does want him dead. The part that I don't believe is her offering Jack protection once Ben is dead. I think she doesn't really care all that much, and will discard Jack dead or alive after he has carried out her plan.
There may be discord, but that could be becuase They are Married. or Brother and Sister. Kissing Cousins... something....

she is definitly heartless and will try something underhanded with jack if he helps her. But he wont!
 
 
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Damn straight I have a crush..But I would like to update what I said, as for Jack's purpose for Juliet. When Jack fails the surgery he will be thrown aside by Juliet.
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"Hey Jack, you wanna kill Ben on the operation table for me so that I can become the leader and make you the scapegoat the dharma-leftovers would like to e-shock to death??"
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Damn straight I have a crush..But I would like to update what I said, as for Jack's purpose for Juliet. When Jack fails the surgery he will be thrown aside by Juliet.
1. What if he tries to botch it, but Benny lives...like with Sarah? Wont THAT mess him up!

2. What if he tries to succeed, but doesnt...like w/ the Italian guy? But they blame him for botching it up? Wont THAT mess him up!
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