Yemi's a smoker.. - Page 2

Ok , but that doesn't explain what happened to the physical bodies of Jack's dad or Yemi's burnt remains .... There have been many illusions on the island ... dreams , visions and de ja vu moments ... I think the smoke monster represents more than that .... whatever that may be remains to be seen .

ps . love your ruby slippers !

I stated in my comment in the thread "Colleeen's Funeral" that there may be a connection between Merlin an dthe Smoke Monster. I stated that the show may be the conflict between paganism and Christianity. I just have been thinking about smoke in its connection to Christianity. White smoke is always a positive; black smoke is always a negative. Consider: white smoke of incense, white smoke in the election of the Pope, etc.; Black smoke of Hell.

Locke faced down the Smoke Monster and survived. To this point, we have no evidence that Locke has committed an act that requires contrition. However, Ecko had committed many such acts. When confronted with them, he refused to confess as required by revealed religion (Christianity). Instead he defended himself by relying on the precepts of natural religion: I had no choice, I did the best I could.

He did not talk to the apparition as to a priest (a man representative of revealed religion) but as to Yemi (a man with natural connections, a human brother). Therefore, the Smoke Monster executed judgement upon Ecko.

His dying words show Ecko's final understanding. Everyone must make this ultimate decision: You're next.

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Katobe - I agree - those bodies had to go somewhere! Because we know (do we really? It IS Lost after all!) that Christian Shepherd's body was on that plane, right? Jack saw his dad's dead body in the morgue in Australia. Could it be simply (and ew! gross!) that the polar bears take care of the physical bodies and then Smokey takes over? EW! A symbiotic relationship?

The Others know about the polar bears (the comment to Sawyer about how long it took the bears to figure out the fish biscuits) but they've never tried to recapture them. Why? Will Smokey not let them? And did the polar bears just swim to the other island, because they can't break away from the force field(?) either?

I truly believe that Smokey could have been appearing as Walt when Shannon saw him in the jungle. The reasons:

- Smokey can apparently take on any form he wants (Yemi, Dave, Christian, black horse) regardless whether that individual or thing exists on the Island.

- Smokey's main reason for taking other forms was to accomplish objectives - Christian, to guide Jack to the coffin/cave, Yemi to lead Eko to The Pearl and to help Locke get his faith back, Dave to lead Hurley to a cliff to jump off (still not entirely sure why), black horse to comfort Kate?

Walt's appearances seemed to be to work Shannon into mental distress, and at the end to warn her that she was about to be killed. I think just because we assume Walt has some incredible powers does not mean he does. Why would the Others just let him go with Michael if he was really that powerful? The producers love to throw us red herrings!

I agree with lizard2112 on the fact smoky is taking on the apperance of all of the illusions that have been seen.. The only reason the others let michael & walt go in my opinions is that they never plan on them getting very far... I think they just let them go to get micheal do what they wanted knowing thy really would end up back on the island

Well, i personally don't think that "Smokey" is any form of shape shifter. I know i tend to disagree with many opinions people give concerning this show...guess its just what i do...like to offer other views to largely accepted theories/ideas.

COULD Smokey be some sort of shape shifter? Yes

However, i think there is something far greater happening than Smokey just taking the shape of other people. One of the largest LOST mysteries which i am still wondering about (but which others have seemed to completley forget about) is the whispers and voices people heard in the jungle during season 1. I can't remember exact episode numbers, but i know more than one person experienced these. Ever since season one, my theory has been that there are the "Others" and there is Dharma...two seperate groups. (i forget his name) But when Desmond first got into the hatch, his partner told him to be careful of the "hostiles". I don't think he was refering to Dharma in this case. I think he was refering to whatever made the whispers, and possible made things appear (other figures of people maybe?)

I'm getting way into theory here, so i'll slow down. All i'm saying is i can't accept that Smokey has taken on these shapes quite yet. I think there is not enough evidence to support such a claim. It would prove an interesting addition to the show, but i'm still hesitant.

I totally agree with Switchfoot here . the idea that there are the others , Dharma and something/someone else is interesting to me . This would explain a lot , well at least give us more to work with . I thought the "hostiles" were a reference to the others , but now I'm not so sure ..................... hummmmm

The black smoke being the judge Judy if the island doesnt seam feasible to me. If it was being controlled by the Pirate from his station, and he was racist or something then i could see it.

but i dont see the religous tie in of the smoke being like your confessional, waiting to ask your choice in life... and if you do bad or refuse to ask forgiveness, you die by his hand ( lierally for Ecko)

I think the smoke is something auotomated or supernatural... i think the people are seeing who they see because they are hallucinating. thier subconciosu mind is helping guide them ( HENCE THE FLASHBACKS every episode)

I've read transcripts of what the voices are saying and it seems to be they are monitoring what's going on, but not in control. It think I read somewhere that when Walt is talking to Shannon (sssshhhhh! and dripping wet) he is actually speaking backwards. What's the deal there?

In season two when Eko was tapping on trees searching for the ones "he liked" for the church I wondered if , because of the tapping, he was seeing if they were hollow or something, like maybe they contained microphones, speakers, or small cameras to spy on that island. That's why people in the jungle could hear the voices. Just like the speaker in Jack's aquarium that "hadn't worked for 20 years," yet we heard voices on it. Maybe the tree speakers didn't work perfectly either and the sound could be heard as whispers. It had just been my thought at the time.