Ben's Tumor, WHY no Island Healing? - Page 2

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Originally Posted by Frogmeister

I agree that the island does not rid you of what ails you. It controls it, keeps it in remission of some sort. If locke and rose leave the island their conditions will return to what they were before the crash. That is why Ben cannot leave the island, unless he can get a surgeon to remove the tumor first.

This is good, but someone said up there somthing about them being on the wrong island, if you dont remember Ben was on the island captive of teh Losties... so maybe that was a motive or something?

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Originally Posted by SouthernCelt

I think it's also possible that the "smoke monster" or force of whatever kind it is may not be a threat to the Losties but a definite threat to the Others, which is why they go past the black rock only in small groups or alone and don't roam freely there.

The smoke monster tried to take Locke. I think it tried to someone else aswell. I remember it sounds like chains or cranks like something mechanical underground. And when Locke was almost dragged into the huge hole in the ground... we saw a Huge Hole in the ground...

I wouldnt not be suprised if the island had some crazy mechanical infrastructure...

I'm of the impression that the chains/mechanical sounding thing and the black smoke are two wholly separate things.

About the healing of the island and Ben. Don't forget that at some point in season two John Locke couldn't walk again because he had lost faith. The island has the power to remove the healing? Maybe the island doen't like Ben and won't allow him to be healed.

I believe the Island only cures the diseases people have got before they came to the Island. That's why Locke's legs and Rose's cancer were fixed while other survivors or THE OTHERS injured in the crash were not, e.g. the US marshal ,Colleen, and people died from unknown virus. The Island just doesn't cure new diseases or injuries people got after them came to the Island. So, perhaps Ben got his tumor after he landed on the Island.

i dont like the machine/black smoke, its too unreal and believing to be there.

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Originally Posted by ichthychen

I believe the Island only cures the diseases people have got before they came to the Island. That's why Locke's legs and Rose's cancer were fixed while other survivors or THE OTHERS injured in the crash were not, e.g. the US marshal ,Colleen, and people died from unknown virus. The Island just doesn't cure new diseases or injuries people got after them came to the Island. So, perhaps Ben got his tumor after he landed on the Island.

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This is exactly what I was thinking.

When Henry "reintroduced" himself as Benjamin to Jack, he stated that he had lived on the island all of his life. So any injuries or maladies that occur through the course of one's life after arriving on the island would take nature's course instead of the island's.

Break your back while on the island, and you're paralyzed. Arrive on on the island paralyzed with a broken back, and you're cured -- unless the effects return once you leave the island.

But didn't that huge blast door puncture John Locke's leg (broken or fractured bones, blood vessels crushed,mashed muscles, who know what else?) and he was up and around VERY quickly. They've only been on the island days not years. If I recall Jack (or whoever in the Swan) wanted to go get the wheel chair for John - his injuries looked THAT bad. I think the island healed him of his blast door injuries at a remarkable rate.

Hmmm...... You are right, of course.

Could be that the island does not permit inflicted injuries to undo what it has remedied. It made Locke able to walk and won't permit anything (other than itself) to change the arrangement, so it healed him -- really quickly!!!

Recall when Boone had to scamper into the Beech Craft because Locke's legs weren't working well? The island must have the power to alter its effects.

I'm grasping here, okay???

Whew! I think I need a flow chart to keep track of all the if injured here, then the island will/won't heal you there - lol! The island has some healing power, but also the ability to take it away. There must be something about the PERSON that helps the island decide? Remember Ben told Jack that they were the good guys - is there a conflict between the island and the others as to who is truly good?