I've got to go along with Cablerunner here, about listening to the podcasts. For one thing they're full of misleading and contradictory information. For another, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, deferring to Lindelof and Cuse is troubling to me and here's why:
Don't you guys enjoy the challenge of figuring it out yourselves? (Obviously I am not talking to everyone here.) Even if it turns out you're wrong, wasn't it more fun to come up with theories on your own than to just bookmark the spoiler sites and podcast transcript sites and then "spill the beans"? Don't you guys think you are smart enough and imaginative enough to contribute ideas whether Cuse and Lindelof "officially" agree with you or not? I think this is a pretty intelligent bunch capable of discussion and disagreement, don't you? To me, Lost is a great puzzle and I don't want to cheat to figure it out. I want to do it myself or with the collaboration of other people who enjoy the challenge as much as I do. Otherwise, I might as well be watching "Everyone Loves Raymond" or "The Hills."
Having taught literature, I often used a critical lens with my students called "Reader Response Theory" to help them find meaning in a text. In this approach the audience decides what's meaningful, NOT THE AUTHOR...or in this case NOT THE PRODUCERS. It's totally valid for anyone to make any claims they want about the meaning of a text BUT ONLY IF the person can link it to the text itself with grounded examples that show a pattern toward his meaning. For example, it's not enough to say "this scene means x" or "no, you're wrong, it doesn't mean x." You HAVE to say "this scene means x because of a,b, and c reasons." Or "No, your theory is incorrect because of a, b, and c reasons" not simply "You're wrong because Cuse and Lindelof say so." Get it? It is a much more charitable approach and allows more discussion on a higher level, and isn't that what Losttalk is for?
So I humbly ask that the next time you're reading theories you disagree with, don't simply discount them because Cuse and Lindelof said yaddayaddayadda. And don't say stuff like "You're just mad that I"m right." That's just a shortcut to thinking! Actually READ the post CAREFULLY AND the supporting examples for the theory. If you can shoot down each of the supporting details, rather than just saying "Cuse and Lindelof say that's not true" then you will have really won the argument because you will have shown that you really pay attention and have more knowledge about the show. That's how a really good conversation works. That, and being able to admit when someone's points made you change your mind.
CPPAH
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Originally Posted by CableRunner
I hate to listen to the producers as well, but the more I think about it, the more that the scenes are NOT out of order, and here's why. Sayid is famous, and if the people 'knew he was coming' they would damn know what he looks like. No way avellino would have even stopped the cart if he'd known it was Sayid.
Most likely Avelino freaked out because he IS involved with the whole shebang, is a person of interest to Ben, and knows what Ben is capable of. Though, I'm not sold that sequences are out of order... I guarantee that little 'law of the producers' will be broken at some point, and they will have an explanation.
I really wish people would stop quoting the podcasts, take what they show you, not what they tell you. I didn't have a podcast for the Bible and i figured that **** out.
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