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Old June 3rd, 2006, 02:07 PM

Default Locke and Eko didn't go to the "?" mark

Is it me, or has anyone else notoiced that the Question Mark on the door map is NOT the Pearl Station?

Does this mean that what Eko was supposed to learn, and what would restore Locke's faith is still out there...waiting to be found?

(I also posted this in Live Together, Die Alone)
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I saw the question mark. It was made from the lack of brush around the area to make the outline of the question mark, and the pearl hatch was the "dot" of the question mark.
 
 
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I saw the question mark. It was made from the lack of brush around the area to make the outline of the question mark, and the pearl hatch was the "dot" of the question mark.
I refuse to believe that the designers of the hatches made a question mark in the ground; Eko even said it was a circle, not a question mark. I think it was definitely a circle, which they (Dharma, or whoever) made by salting the earth there, and the hatch door was below it, and it only looked like a question mark because the plane was burnt, and it caused a darkening of the area below the circle. So it kind of looked like a question mark, probably on purpose by the writers so we'd discuss it to no end, but I don't believe it was designed that way by Dharma.
 
 
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I saw the question mark. It was made from the lack of brush around the area to make the outline of the question mark, and the pearl hatch was the "dot" of the question mark.
Agree. So the question now becomes whether the question mark site (Pearl station) that they located was the site where the diagram intended or is there another still unknown site? If the Pearl station wasn't the site represented by the ? on the diagram, then Dharma or someone is really jerking the Losties around with all their mysterious "discover-the-truth-for-yourself" codes and symbols.
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Obviously going to the Pearl led Eko to push the button. He was meant to take Locke's place. Maybe we will learn why Yemi made him go in search of the "?" next season.
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No, no, no! I wasn't talking about a question mark in the ground. In Eko's dream, his brother told him to ask Locke about the question mark. That's obviously refering to the central hatch painted on the blast door. If you look to the right of the swan and up, you'll see that the Pearl is noted there--separated and distinct from the question mark.

I was putting forth the notion that neither one had "found" what their visions were telling them to search for. If Locke had found the Pearl with Boone, he would have seen Desmond working away, inside the Swan Hatch. It would have changed everything. Instead of seeing the Swan as the be-all, end-all of his quest, Locke might have started tracing the air-tube line and found the secret hiding place of the Others.

After seeing the big Question Mark in the center of the diagram, I figured that all the answers would probably be there. But both Eko and Locke now think that they've found the question mark, so they aren't looking for that central hatch.

Any comments on this idea? Or am I just blowing a lot of smoke out from between my ears from my over-heated brain?
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Just thought of something else.

When Boone and Locke first found the hatch, it was partially covered, in a ravine.

Could those topographical features in the wall diagram be ravines or valleys, and not rivers?
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I definitely agree with you that the question mark on the map is not the Pearl station; if only because a fake monitoring station just seems to lame to be the big mysterious question mark; I was hoping for something better...
 
 
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So...no other thoughts on this?

No one is wondering what the central hatch is?

Will it be shut down, now that the power system of the Swan Station has been turned off by Desmond?

No one wants to speculate on the fact that Henry wanted the Swan Station shut down? (he's obviously working on getting Locke to lose his faith in punching in the numbers).

Could the central hatch (the Question Mark noted on the blast door) be the Control Center of the island? The place where Hanso and his minions are hiding out? The place that Henry and the Others (or as he puts it, the "good guys") are trying to put our of business?

And what about the radio tower and transmitter? How come no one's gone looking for that? Rouseau told them it was located near the Black Rock. Why hasn't anyone bothered to look for it?
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