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Johnathan "John" Locke

Johnathan "John" Locke is one of the middle section survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. His paralysis was immediately healed upon crashing on the Island, which has ultimately led him to believe he has some sort of special connection to the Island. He is sometimes shown in antithesis to Benjamin Linus, sharing several traits including the ability to commune with Jacob. Seen as antithetical to Jack Shephard, he and Jack are philosophical opposites and used to share leadership among the survivors, but now seems to be creating his own agenda for his actions on the Island and has broken off from the survivors.
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2x17 - Lockdown Airdate: March 29, 2006

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Old March 30th, 2006, 12:55 AM

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A fresh look at things from ASR at 4815162342.com...
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Great work everybody! Maybe since originally two people were assigned to the hatch that they were able to coordinate the doors coming down and drawing the map?
 
 
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First- wow, what an episode. It has actually inspired me to become fanatical, and this is my first post about the show- so Hi everybody!

Some people have already posted some of this... but here it is in one post-

Latin Translations (text taken from the lost.cubit image, I am going to see if I can find more)

Sursum corda - Lift up your hearts (to God)
Cogito ergo doleo - I think therefore I am depressed
Ut sit magna, tamen certe lenta ira deorum est - The wrath of the gods may be great, but it certainly is slow
Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed. (Publilius Syrus)
Aegrescit medendo - The disease worsens with the treatment. The remedy is worse than the disease

translations found here- http://www.yuni.com/library/latin_7.html


"Sursum Corda" Ralph Waldo Emerson
Seek not the Spirit, if it hide,
Inexorable to thy zeal:
Baby, do not whine and chide;
Art thou not also real?
Why should'st thou stoop to poor excuse?
Turn on the Accuser roundly; say,
"Here am I, here will I remain
Forever to myself soothfast,
Go thou, sweet Heaven, or, at thy pleasure stay."—
Already Heaven with thee its lot has cast,
For it only can absolutely deal.
 
 
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"Sursum Corda" Ralph Waldo Emerson
Seek not the Spirit, if it hide,
Inexorable to thy zeal:
Baby, do not whine and chide;
Art thou not also real?
Why should'st thou stoop to poor excuse?
Turn on the Accuser roundly; say,
"Here am I, here will I remain
Forever to myself soothfast,
Go thou, sweet Heaven, or, at thy pleasure stay."—
Already Heaven with thee its lot has cast,
For it only can absolutely deal.
Wow. It's really early in the morning, and my brain isn't quite awake yet, but that was really hard to totally make sense of. Does it sound like someone who thinks he (or she) is about to die?
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OK Guys to me those are deff not tunnels but rather probably Rivers which further shows that it is a map of the island. because of the way they curve. ... Tunnels dont often curve so much.
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First, welcome to all the new members. You've got a lot of great theories.

Here's another picture of the map with some more stuff drawn in.

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg
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That map seems to be drawn by someone who was caught on the island and was trying to figure out what it was. Someone smart enough to know latin and someone who was there for quite a while.

All those quotes of being sad and depressed somewhat remind me of Marvin the paranoid android from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Also, I don't think that CV I, CV II, etc. are one big roman numeral because there is a space between the CV and the II. So it's probably initials followed by a number, ex: Compound Vault 1, Compound Vault 2, etc.

**edit** A couple of the hatches are drawn with dotted lines, my guess is because whoever drew the map couldn't access or find those hatches.

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Maybe the dotted hatches are the underwater hatches we have all theorized about?
 
 
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That map seems to be drawn by someone who was caught on the island and was trying to figure out what it was. Someone smart enough to know latin and someone who was there for quite a while.

All those quotes of being sad and depressed somewhat remind me of Marvin the paranoid android from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Also, I don't think that CV I, CV II, etc. are one big roman numeral because there is a space between the CV and the II. So it's probably initials followed by a number, ex: Compound Vault 1, Compound Vault 2, etc.

**edit** A couple of the hatches are drawn with dotted lines, my guess is because whoever drew the map couldn't access or find those hatches.
I think it's numbers because he/she (it?) writes in latin (roman)
 
 
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Maybe the dotted hatches are the underwater hatches we have all theorized about?
Or hatches he/she/them, from the Dharma logo's appearance, assumes are there but haven't found proof for.
 
 
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